Slaves to society?

SpiritRelic

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Could you think outside the box for a moment and contemplate the idea that we all are nothing more than slaves to society?Could you give your brand new car away that was bought and paid for only to use a bicycle and the city bus as your main mode of transportation?Could you tell the cable company to take there cable line and shove it were the sun don't shine?Could you tell your boss that he is a jerk and walk out the door to never return?I have.Really we struggle in life to buy material things that we think will make us happy and to prove that we are better than the next person only to move ourselves further into the prison walls that we created for ourselves.We work ourselves to death for a short fifty to sixty years only to get what?A six foot hole in the ground with a warm casket when we are done.Sounds like a good deal to me.We strive to show that we are so much better than the next person only to finally realize that person wipes there ass just like you do,and picks there nose the same exact way you do.But you have the huge house on the hill that says no, i am better than the others because this is proof of that, only to look in the mirror and discover that you are a miserable slave to society. :'(
 

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I've never had a brand new car and the cable tv lines have never been run down my road. I like my boss and feel no need to prove that I am better than anyone. I also recognize that society allows me to spend my days doing something other than hunting and gathering food, fuel and water.

I have both good and bad days, but generally speaking I am quite happy.

On sunny days like we had over the weekend, I'd love to have a sleek Mercedes convertible and on others I wish I had an extended bed 4WD pick-up with a monstrous diesel engine, but I don't have either of these and yet life is still far far better than it would be if I had been born 100 years ago or in a 3rd world country.

We all make choices. The most important choice we make each day has to do with our attitude.

Choose well and you'll look at life much differently.
 

I am happy. I am not a slave to society. I choose how to spend my money.

never will be totally self sufficient (like live in the Yukon, need only property tax money for my whole life etc) and live off the land.

So hubby has a good job, we can buy a big truck, big 5th wheel camper, take great vacations etc. I have nice house, land, pool, owned my horses etc.

BUT I also do not spend on small material things. I have cable and love it. wouldn't give up my cable line for anything :)

I do not buy $150 boots (well hubby does for work but I don't buy fashion boots that expensive :) ), we don't have all those electronic gadgets like MP3, Ipod etc and we don't have SUPER EXPENSIVE anything in my home. I buy quality but cut the line at ever going insane. Like no $800 lamps in the house, just $80 lamps from a good furniture store. (I watched a design show last night. People bought a $1,421 lamp. They thought the price was KINDA high. WHAT. a stick of metal, a bulb and a lampshade. Come on.) Unless you have the big bucks to truly spend on items like this, or truly want it, then it is cool. but they were 'on a tight budget'. tight budget and $1400 lamp don't go in the same sentence to me HAHA.



So to me the slave part comes in on HOW MUCH of your money do you want to spend and where. You can easily make yourself a slave to debt.
Hubby has to work either way for medical coverage....so we spend the money on the exact things that make our life happy. Don't overspend, but put those bucks right where we can enjoy the most bang for our buck.

I think we are more of a slave to the pricing of the things in life. Like cable and tv and internet. If you want you gotta pay. If not, don't. But I hate the combined price of all 3. Would love for them to drop their price a bit each month...haha...not going to happen. BUT if he lost his job and it came down to pick and choose etc. cable, internet would be gone in a flash. As others would do if necessary.


PYRATE is right. Choose well and you'll look at life much differently.
 

I started out just above hunter/gatherer level . Got a telephone in the house when I was 10 . Working together as a family ;
by the time I was 13 we had a new home with indoor plumbing and central heat . Trying to be better than others? NO!

Just trying to improve our own creature comfort levels . As a family we built that home and my dad still lives in it . I built mine , too , in time . Neighbors have fancy new homes and mortgages . We have secure , efficient , well built homes that are paid for . I reared 4 children to maturity and only had to get one out of jail one time . Put them through college and now they all have productive careers and their own paid for homes and I got 6 grandchildren to educate/spoil .

Tryin to keep up with someone ? Nope ! Few people can run fast enough to keep up with me :occasion14:
 

We only go through life once as far as any ones knows. I try to make my love ones happy, live life and enjoy life......I will be 64 in few weeks, first job at age of 12 after school a and on weekends......Sure it would have been nice to have had more money, but I have enjoy my life too, been a heck of a lot more ups than downs..........I am not miserable and not a slave to society...........
 

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You will always have the haves, and have not in this world, that is the one constant that will never change.

I guess this is a post about keeping up with the Joneses :laughing7: I was brought up with an old Irish proverb, you cut your cloth to fit your measure. Simply put, just live within your means. I don't measure success by fancy toys, whether they were mine or someone else. Material objects don't impress me, I've had some nice things and lost many nice things. No big deal.

I'm also lucky in the sense that I just don't need everything to be happy.

After all, if you had everything, where would you put it :dontknow: :laughing7:

TH, your first job at 12.. That is considered a slacker where I grew up :laughing9:
 

Spart, first "paying job".....Before then I didn't get paid..... Got paid a whole .40 cent hour then working in a plant nursery, got .60 cent an hour when I was laying sod.....LOL.
 

Like I said, a slacker :tongue3: I was bagging and delivering groceries at the old age of 8 :laughing7:

Although I relied strictly on tips, you did work hard and earned money.. Try carrying several bags of groceries up 5 flights of stairs, especially when the bags almost weighed the same as you did :laughing7:
 

Like I said, a slacker :tongue3: I was bagging and delivering groceries at the old age of 8 :laughing7:

Although I relied strictly on tips, you did work hard and earned money.. Try carrying several bags of groceries up 5 flights of stairs, especially when the bags almost weighed the same as you did :laughing7:

You were getting paid at age of 8, lucky dog....
 

The Story of Our Enslavement – Interlude

September 18th, 2012
“We humans have out-sheeped the sheep, because at least the sheep need a sheepdog to keep them in line, humans keep each other in line and they do it by ridiculing or condemning anyone who commits the crime of being different.” ~David Icke
(JuevesFilosofico) – How did we become slaves without being aware of our own subjugation? We became slaves through our own evolution of consciousness when we forgot the laws of nature and lost the sense of the only reality that exists. The reality which is now, and not in the future or in the memory of a past. The mind of an animal does not think of a future or a past, but only experiences, all possibilities in the now. For example, you cannot threaten a hen with death to produce more eggs, but you can threaten a man with death to give you his eggs. It is here where we became slaves with the fear of our own future. The video below draws significant parallels between slavery, the ownership of livestock and human farming. Here we begin to see the nature of the cage that we were born in. In the meantime, open your minds. – Source: JuevesFilosofico

“Man is born free, and everywhere he is in chains. One man thinks himself the master of others, but remains more of a slave than they are.” ~ Jean-Jacques Rousseau



The Story of Our Enslavement II

September 19th, 2012

“Necessity is blind until it becomes conscious. Freedom is the consciousness of necessity.” ~Karl Marx

(JuevesFilosofico) – There are many people who do not have the need for true freedom. They are so accustomed to a false sense of freedom, which is actually slavery. It is bondage that we are born into and a cage that is not possible to perceive with the limit of our five senses. It is only possible to perceive it with the sense of our mind. We are not aware of true freedom until we become aware of its necessity or until we experience it. However, the knowledge of freedom does not necessarily depend on the physical experience of freedom. As Antoine de Saint-Exupury once said.

“I know but one freedom and that is the freedom of the mind.”

The manipulation of fear, money, religion and language has resulted in the manipulation of our consciousness and beliefs through deception. This has created a meme within the psyche of our species.

The excerpt from the documentary ‘Ungrip‘explains the situations well:

We have become use to thinking that we have a right to all that we have, no matter what damage we do to the Earth or to other people. We have become detached and disconnected from reality, the Earth, and the feelings and lives of people elsewhere because it interferes with our right to maintain our lifestyle and standard of living. I would submit to you that we’re on a course, leading to inevitable annihilation. Martin Luther King said, ‘The issue is not between violence and non-violence it’s between violence and non-existence.’

The course we’re on in the first world is a course of ultimate destruction. Do we want to be part of this course of ultimate destruction? Or do we want to be part of hope and affirmation and justice for all people of the earth, and for the earth itself, without which we cannot live? Yes I’m talking about a non-violent revolution in consciousness.

Everyone comes to a point in life in which we reflect upon those things that matter. There are some who choose to ignore the depth of this question, and there are others who follow this question into oblivion. Is it possible to walk the middle path? To ask these questions yet embrace the possibility of never arriving at an answer? Is it possible to live our lives not in the absence of a corrupt world, but despite of it?

If you were asked to ponder what matters most in your life, what would it be? Security? Money? Success? Sex? Power? Have you ever considered why? Why we crave? Do we not have enough? What happens when we have all the money, all the security, all the success, sex and power, yet haven’t found peace? What happens if we gain the world without an ounce of love and appreciation? We end up only wanting more!

The world can’t give enough of itself. It’s as if humanity is becoming a black hole, devouring everything in its path. When we receive the things that we desire, our first instinct is to protect them from others. We distrust our neighbors because of them. We wage war to gain more of them. However, love is distinct from these. When love is present, our first instinct is to give back, to help those who truly want to be free, those who desire to give back, who desire to know love. But what happens if no one truly wants love anymore? What if no one desired freedom? What if the greatest epidemic known to man has already infected the entire species? The race of humanity conned into believing that slavery is freedom, that fear is love, that suffering is happiness, would you be able to recognize it if it were happening right now? Ask yourself, is it? Is this the world we live in?

There are billions of people wandering around on this globe with perspective, scope, belief, dogma, morals, fears, desires, and hidden agendas. It’s difficult to comprehend exactly what drives each of them. When looking at the surface of this unique condition, the planet is in due to only one species. It may seem as if we are not truly interested in freedom anymore. Maybe we are not truly working toward growth, prosperity and peace. Again it’s difficult to pinpoint why we are a species of perpetual war and perpetual deceit mashed by perpetual heroism and perpetual compassion. There is no one answer to explain it all, and yet even if there were, it wouldn’t be the intellectual answer we desperately want it to be. The most we can do as individuals is to begin acting like individuals instead of acting like machines on auto pilot from some primal program set in motion millions of years ago. What would this planet look like if we took back the one power we consistently give away, which is choice? There is always a choice, good, bad, indifferent, there is always a choice, love, fear, growth, decay, life and death, there is always a choice, and the picture perfect ending or eternal struggle is but a consequence of the direction we choose to travel from here.

“Your freedom begins when you realize it’s a choice.” ~Pepe Aguilar

Yes, I’m talking about a non-violent revolution of consciousness. A consciousness that is able to understand how we’re are all inextricably connected to each other, and to the Earth itself, and if we violate these fundamental principles we do so at our own peril. Yes, we can continue to live in this delusion and the denials of reality because it’s painful, it’s frightening, sometimes it’s terrifying. It’s terrifying to face the truth, so I ask each of you to search your hearts for your truth. To become a citizen of the Earth promoting justice as a foundation for peace, is not going to happen magically, and I think it’s not going to happen by relying on current political structures and institutions. I think we’re going to have to wage peace in the most extraordinary ways, whether our government wants it or not. You will know in your heart what to do, but I know that without a non-violent revolution of consciousness we will not survive as a civilization or as a planet. We can choose to have peace if we want to pay the price, and what more, glorious goal and value do want than peace for all people. So I look forward to working together with you all, with the people, to build a new society, a society that understands that we are not worth more, and they are not worth less and that we will be willing to pay the price and take the risks to wage peace with all fellow and sister human beings.

“Regard heaven as your father, Earth as your mother, and all that lives as your brother and sister.” ~Native Wisdom

 

truckinbutch said:
I started out just above hunter/gatherer level . Got a telephone in the house when I was 10 . Working together as a family ;
by the time I was 13 we had a new home with indoor plumbing and central heat . Trying to be better than others? NO!

Just trying to improve our own creature comfort levels . As a family we built that home and my dad still lives in it . I built mine , too , in time . Neighbors have fancy new homes and mortgages . We have secure , efficient , well built homes that are paid for . I reared 4 children to maturity and only had to get one out of jail one time . Put them through college and now they all have productive careers and their own paid for homes and I got 6 grandchildren to educate/spoil .

Tryin to keep up with someone ? Nope ! Few people can run fast enough to keep up with me :occasion14:

I had all that to until my wife found a excuse to kick me out of the house so she could sleep with another man.That is when i really discovered i could do just fine living in a tent.I do not need all these this things.I have had it all.I can take it or leave it.I do not think like the rest i guess.
 

I had all that to until my wife found a excuse to kick me out of the house so she could sleep with another man.That is when i really discovered i could do just fine living in a tent.I do not need all these this things.I have had it all.I can take it or leave it.I do not think like the rest i guess.
Oh,excuse me . I failed to mention that my first wife was the mother of those 4 kids and we divorced just short of 15 years for the same reason . She got the gold mine and I lived in a barn on the farm with no power and washed in the watering trough for several months . What I ate was what I caught and fixed .

I got past that . Rebuilt my life , remarried , got custody of my children and raised them .
You sound like a quitter to me .................. Get off your butt and prove me wrong .
Jim
 

truckinbutch said:
Oh,excuse me . I failed to mention that my first wife was the mother of those 4 kids and we divorced just short of 15 years for the same reason . She got the gold mine and I lived in a barn on the farm with no power and washed in the watering trough for several months . What I ate was what I caught and fixed .

I got past that . Rebuilt my life , remarried , got custody of my children and raised them .
You sound like a quitter to me .................. Get off your butt and prove me wrong .
Jim

Turn on tune in and drop out. :-*
 

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Never say die.It reminds me of a book I read a long time ago.It was called No Surrender by Hiroo Onoda.Hiroo was a Japanese soldier during WW2 in the Philippines..The whole time he believed the war was still going on.He outmaneuvered all pursuers,american troops,philippine troops,police,islanders,and Japanese search parties until 1974 when he came out of the jungle.Thats guts.
 

Never say die.It reminds me of a book I read a long time ago.It was called No Surrender by Hiroo Onoda.Hiroo was a Japanese soldier during WW2 in the Philippines..The whole time he believed the war was still going on.He outmaneuvered all pursuers,american troops,philippine troops,police,islanders,and Japanese search parties until 1974 when he came out of the jungle.Thats guts.
And after the noteriety died away he went to the Argentine and bought an estancia . Became a very succesful beef producer . That guy wrote the book on balls .
 

And after the noteriety died away he went to the Argentine and bought an estancia . Became a very succesful beef producer . That guy wrote the book on balls

He sure did.
 

Do not be frightened as the lock is removed that has been in place for so long now.The hatred for cars is only due to the car killed the only child.Once the lizard man has exited the door completely the earth will be changed forever.
 

Life is a frame of mind. Don't let the challenges and defeats in life screw up your head. Life is good. :icon_thumright:
 

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