Slave Quarters from 'ole Plantation, Coins, Slave tag and Silver pig

[Schuder3]

Its been a rough few days. Trying to work but, that same old plantation keeps calling me back. Megaloden really did a fine job on the last hammered coin I posted Dizain Franciscus 1540 but I decided to go to an area today Identified on an 1863 map of the area that showed Quarters, which I took to mean Slave Quarters. Jack pot! Old brick and pottery everywhere! Also, tons of iron and to make it worst, thick clay. A real test for the Equinox 800 which I had recently set up for 5 tones that I learned from reading post. The machine did wonderfully with the sensitivity set at 20. ( normally I run it hot ) The pictures show only few of the relics that I have cleaned up to post. Not enough time for more, I need to get back to work to pay for all of this play time. I do need help for id on coins, and hope that the close up photos will help. Only cleaned with tooth pick at this point. I know everyone says that there are no slave tags in Virginia but if the heavy No. 18 heavy tag is not one, what is it, and the lead carved piece looks to be MAYBE slave carved and I have know idea on the silver piece at the top right of group photo. Several other plain flat buttons were dug with shoe box full of interesting brass and also dug like 10 axe heads. Sorry for the long post but wanted to describe fully the pics. Also bullets are both pulled.

 

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[Professor of Engineering]

Congratulations on the nice coins and relics!

 

[grasshopper]

1787 - State Copper? Connecticut or Vermont perhaps? Only thing that's weird is the letter at the bottom left - Vermont/Connecticut's have an I from IND there, but yours looks like an E or B.

The one with the pillars is interesting, it resembles the spanish reale's, but you can also see some stars and small lettering.

I'm sure someone will recognize it.

I'd pound the heck outta that site! Great finds!

 

[lairmo]

Everything is super cool!!! If the tag doesn't say CHARLESTON it's not a slave tag. Also never seen a round one. But none the less a great hunt!!!

 

[collector01]

nice finds, the one piece looks like a sword guard. dont think thats a slave tag,

 

[Megalodon]

Great stuff Schuder3! Tempted to say its impossible to identify without holding them in my hand in the context of the site, but I'll offer some suggestions from a short distance anyway...

I agree with grasshopper about the 1787 Connecticut copper.

I also agree with lairmo that the piece with the 18 is not a slave tag. I think it may be a "picker's check" - used by pickers of vegetables and oysters. Having lost the token, some poor fieldhand probably did not get credit for all he picked.

Does the coin above the little pig's snout have a bend to it? I have dug bent coins at sites from that era that turned out to be "witch pieces". The idea was to carry a bent coin to repel witches and (I think) keep them from getting close enough to place a spell on you, so it was a form of protection.

Congrats!

 

[GaRebel1861]

Great stuff Schuder3! Tempted to say its impossible to identify without holding them in my hand in the context of the site, but I'll offer some suggestions from a short distance anyway...

I agree with grasshopper about the 1787 Connecticut copper.

I also agree with lairmo that the piece with the 18 is not a slave tag. I think it may be a "picker's check" - used by pickers of vegetables and oysters. Having lost the token, some poor fieldhand probably did not get credit for all he picked.

Does the coin above the little pig's snout have a bend to it? I have dug bent coins at sites from that era that turned out to be "witch pieces". The idea was to carry a bent coin to repel witches and (I think) keep them from getting close enough to place a spell on you, so it was a form of protection.

Congrats!

Do these "witch pieces" work on ex-wife's as well? Asking for a friend.

 

[A2coins]

Amazing wow what a cool place to hunt Thanks for showing us your finds Sweeeeet

 

[Davers]

A great hunt & a great site.

 

[Kona Koma]

Very nice finds. Get back to that site.

 

[Whyme]

Very cool finds! Hunt the crap out of the site! Congrats on those coins!

 

[johnnycat]

Very nice finds. Low and slow, good luck.

 

[Schuder3]

So Guys, Girls, Whatever you feel like ( I am in Virginia now, so I have to be careful), is the 1787 Coin considered a hammered coin? Magalondon, if you email me I would love to put those coins in your hand, if that would help. The smaller one is 25.3mm and it is not silver. not sure best cleaning method, have only used toothpick at this point. Garebel1861, I don't think so , cause my ex has not gone away. also that is a large button with stars around the rim, nothing on the back. Thanks for looking !

 

[grasshopper]

So Guys, Girls, Whatever you feel like ( I am in Virginia now, so I have to be careful), is the 1787 Coin considered a hammered coin? Magalondon, if you email me I would love to put those coins in your hand, if that would help. The smaller one is 25.3mm and it is not silver. not sure best cleaning method, have only used toothpick at this point. Garebel1861, I don't think so , cause my ex has not gone away. also that is a large button with stars around the rim, nothing on the back. Thanks for looking !

Nope, not a hammered coin. NY, MA, VT, CT, and NJ minted their own copper coins from varying years between 1785 and 1788.

 

[DetectingGodlikeOnOlympus]

In your second to last picture is a fragment of a very old shell from the hand guard of a sword. The "No. 18" disc is probably a tool check, and if you google around for "tool check" you will see many similar to identical examples. Slave tags were only issued from the cities of Charleston and Charleston Neck, and will always have the issuing authority, a record number, an occupation, and the year of issue. There is also one "Free" tag that was produced which will include the same information. These are the only authentic slave tags.

Other than that, you have a very nice and varied assortment of finds. I don't see anything that would suggest it was definitely a slave quarters, but it definitely looks like a Virginia assemblage with some very early stuff, some American Civil War stuff, and some antebellum or Federal period stuff in between.

That sword component might surprise you with how early it is.

Happy hunting!

 

[Digger RJ]

Nice!!! Congrats!!!

 

[Mvgirl]

The silver pig is adorable and such a funny but cool find.

 

[Relicific]

Very cool finds

 

[Inspector]

That's an amazing site with those coins & relics, congrats on all the saves.

 

[Argentium]

Slave tag , and coins are great , but you really got my attention with Silver Pig ! How many times ( if ever ) have we seen a Silver Pig posted here ?