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[njnydigger]

Just picked up a used Fisher CZ-3D aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it gets even better...

It happens to be one of the original 1021's made before Fisher was bought out

Oh yeah, it comes with the 5" coil as well...which I hear is ROCKIN

From all I've heard, these CZ-3D's (especially properly calibrated 1021's) can rival - if not beat - ANY Minelab on depth

Watch out Minelabber's, HERE I COME

 

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[Bart@Big Boys Hobbies]

Great find!!! They are good machines!!

 

[mrwilburino]

Congrats! Great machine, deep & accurate; although it does have a fondness for rusty nails. Love that 5" coil.

 

[gleaner1]

With the cz's, in any scrim mode, deeper rusty iron crap like nails or washers will invoke a high response at first, fooling you to think it is a goody, especially in the higher sense range. With my cz, in scrim mode, I investigate and quickly wave the coil over suspected iron targets that at first "pop" giving a hint at being good. If I can get it to give any bit whatsoever of a low iron squawk, it is 99.99% sure to be iron crap and I move on. It works the other way too. If a target squawks a bit of iron, but you can get the audio signal to improve, and eliminate any iron response in all directions, with rapid sweeping, it is a crusty indian or deep nickle or brass or gold. A slow sweep will sound a bit iron on deep crusty copper and nickels, but rapid waggling will bring up the cream, and you will know its a goody. This takes a long time to learn, I have used my 20 since '94. I have moved on to full metal autotune, deep stuff is heard readily. A quick switch to iron scrim, and use above stated tactics for outstanding metal detecting success with any cz.

 

[Sandman]

Good advice Gleaner1. http://www.fisherlab.com/hobby/field-tests/cz-3dfieldtest_000.pdf

 

[gleaner1]

cz's like iron, but that's okay. Once you get used to it, hearing the iron is an invaluable tool. Goodies shine thru the scattered iron very well on these machines anyway. The more sensitive machines are, the more they pop on iron, it's that simple. The cz tames down nicely on iron too, just crank the sense back a bit, and up the scrim a bit. It's a killer.

 

[njnydigger]

Hey Gleaner, thanks for all of the terrific advice I don't understand something though, why does everyone always say it's better to "hear" the iron? Could it be so the machine doesn't null and one wouldn't lose any targets close by?? I have hunted MANY iron infested sites & quite honestly, sometimes all the noise and chatter is just TOO much if I'm accepting iron. So, after about 20 minutes of this, I normally crank my discrim up and start cherry picking. Sure, I might lose some targets from the nulling, but, comfort wise it's a LOT easier on the ears and brain

BTW, you seem VERY knowledgeable about the CZ-3D. Do you swing one? If so, does it have the same unmasking abilities as the Minelabs do in and around iron?? I've heard nothing but raves about this machine. Turn-on-and-go, deeper than almost all others, accurate TDI, super beach machine. In all honesty though, are there ANY drawbacks that you've seen or any pitfalls to watch out for? I've been reading a LOT of Dankowski's stuff and it's mind blowing. Heck, should be...he designed the thing

Tell it to me straight gleaner, will this machine sniff out those old, deepies for me

 

[gleaner1]

digger, I must clarify, I know the 20, which is a 5, which is basically a 6. Having said this, I will answer your last question. My answer would be, of course, this, as follows..... "Of course that machine will sniff out those old deep targets! It's common knowledge!".

 

[diggerdan]

Before my CZ3D, I used a CZ6, a few years separating the two. The 3D is amazing, imho. Better on nickels and IH's read above zinc, which most did w/ CZ6. My 1021 will air test a clad dime at 11.5".

 

[Up to my ____ in Pulltabs]

Just picked up a used Fisher CZ-3D aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it gets even better...

It happens to be one of the original 1021's made before Fisher was bought out

Oh yeah, it comes with the 5" coil as well...which I hear is ROCKIN

From all I've heard, these CZ-3D's (especially properly calibrated 1021's) can rival - if not beat - ANY Minelab on depth

Watch out Minelabber's, HERE I COME

Congratulations,
Welcome to the club!
Someone show him the secret handshake
You are correct about running with the ML's. Sometimes you'll even run them over
The CZ3D is my favorite land detector. You'll get to know the tones and most of the time you won't even look at the meter.
No digital menus, No VDI mumbers to slow you or distract you. It's a pure analog goody magnet. The CZ3D loves nickles.
They ring loud and clear at amazing depths. Get your full size garden shovel ready
I've found dimes at 11-12" and at the beach I've found quarters in damp sand deep enough I needed to go rent a backhoe.
The discrimination, target separation, unmasking abilities and stability at great depth is second to none for analog detectors.



Don't worry about the previous posts regarding the iron.
Iron is not an issue with this unit, you'll be able to hear the difference between
steel crown caps and a coin. It takes a little time to ear train yourself and you'll be fine.
The faceted tip of a nail and the head will give you a sharp chirp like a good target but at the same time the beginning of the tone and end are scratchy. Some times you'll hear pops and crackles that give away that good tone for what it really is, a nail.
Crown caps will usually give themselves away if you rotate the coil on them, you'll get the iron tone.

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