Rigged Boxes!!!

[coolcash2004]

Is it possible, that after going through roughly 50 + boxes and finding about 4 silvers per box average that they are rigged? My record for this area is about 20 40%'s, and that has happened 1 time so far.

I wish that the areas getting 20 - 200 silvers average per bank trip would mix in with areas like mine so that everyone can get a fair 30 silvers per box. Heck, I would be happy with 5 90%ers!


Please no reply saying "we all have our silver droughts" because this is not a drought. Droughts do not occur in the dessert because they are constant. I dont live in a dessert by the way.

Thanks for all comments.

-CC

 

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[utah hunter]

I live in a desert, or is it a semi-arid plain? I knew I should have listened better in science.
Sounds like you have some competition in your area, are all the boxes from the same place? I figure it is all pure profit, and being new I still have a blast going through rolls, it is a fun hobby for me. Good luck on your next boxes, I know the addiction is too strong to break...Ryan

 

[Silver Stripe]

I had a box last week that was very strange. I was not complaining cause it was my best box to date. But like every third roll almost had one 90 in it from the first roll on- like someone was standing by the hopper with a bucket of silver halves tossing them in one at a time (that is the mental pic I had anyways). One roll did have 3 side by side and a Ben an inch away- then I started wish that whoever had got bored and dumped the bucket in sos I could get a solid roll haha. HH Mark

 

[PullTabPrincess]

At least the boxes aren't being rigged with NO silver!

 

[Silver Stripe]

Thats for sure. I've had 3 of those LOL. HH Mark

 

[coolcash2004]

Hmmmm.

Yes, and I suppose you would all like to know that the silver is in one area typically. If there are 4 silvers in the box... they are 90% of the time in rolls right next to each other. Hmmmmm...

-CC

 

[GMan00001]

Hmmmm.

Yes, and I suppose you would all like to know that the silver is in one area typically. If there are 4 silvers in the box... they are 90% of the time in rolls right next to each other. Hmmmmm...

-CC

I have also seen the phenomenon that you are listing with half dollar boxes with penny boxes. Half the rolls had nothing and the other half had all the keepers. I really doubt they were "seeding" the penny boxes.

In fact I have come to the following conclusion about the way the "keeper" coins are in a box sometimes seem like they are all next to each other. The fact that the silver tends to be next each other makes more sense if you consider the following:

• If all the silver in the bag came from one person, when it gets put in the bag and sent to away to be rolled it will likely all be near to each other in the bag.
• When the bag is poured out, the silver will still likely be in close proximity to each other so it will likely come out at nearly the same time.
• Since the rolls are filled sequentially, the silver will likely fill rolls that are close to each other.

I will say from doing bags of pennies, there are times when I can detect a switch in the bag as I take it out handful by handful. For example, I have had bags of pennies where I didn't find a single wheat penny through about $40 worth of a $50 bag, but then in the last $10 worth I have gotten around a dozen wheat pennies. I have also seen where a bag will switch from having pennies that are slimy/gritty (like from a fountain) to normal. Its usually an amazingly sudden switch considering the bag is all loose and gets moved around multiple times or jostled in the car. You would think the coins would shift and mix but they really don't seem to mix much.

 

[ringding]

I'll bet they were Brinks boxes. A Brinks employee told a teller at my bank that each box has something in it. I think they do it so that we will keep buying them. Boycott Brinks.

 

[LJ]

I am not sure CC. I would like to hope they aren't rigged which would mean they are being tampered with.

I hope the results turn around for you though. Good luck CC.

 

[Emperor Findus Cladius]

Realistically speaking there is only a finite number of silver coins out there to find. Ten years ago an average box for me was about 80 coins. Now I am lucky to find 5 in a box, and the average is maybe 2 - 3, with half the boxes skunks. Since silver has risen so much in the past few years, the number of coin roll hunters has increased dramatically. The more hunters you have, the more silver that gets found. The more silver that is found, the less there is to find. Thinking about it in percentages, lets say that CRH started 10 years ago. 100% of the silver to find was still out there. Lets say that an average of 8% of the silver is found every year. That means in 10 years 80% of the silver coins have been found, and only 20% are left to find. Again, all this is hypothetical, all it shows is since there is only a finite number of silver coins out there, eventually the vast majority will get found and there will only a very few out there. And if you live near a large city like I do, then there will be a larger number of coin roll hunters out there to help deplete the supply.

 

[coolcash2004]

True, but if in the first year we found 8% of the silver.... then next year there is only 92% left.... so we would find 8% of that 92, not of the original100, so the second year we find roughly 7.4%.... see, it reduces.


Plus silver is always being added.

-CC

 

[Boobydoo]

"we all have our silver droughts"



Sorry , couldn't help myself

Hope your next box dispells all your miths and percentages and is filled with keepers!

Smiles!
BDoo

 

[Emperor Findus Cladius]

True, but if in the first year we found 8% of the silver.... then next year there is only 92% left.... so we would find 8% of that 92, not of the original100, so the second year we find roughly 7.4%.... see, it reduces.


Plus silver is always being added.

-CC

I agree with the 8% of the 92, I was just trying to keep it simple for the hypothetical scenario.

 

[Scott (Mich)]

True, but if in the first year we found 8% of the silver.... then next year there is only 92% left.... so we would find 8% of that 92, not of the original100, so the second year we find roughly 7.4%.... see, it reduces.


Plus silver is always being added.

-CC

I agree with the 8% of the 92, I was just trying to keep it simple for the hypothetical scenario.

I agree with the above in regards to the amount of silver coins in circulation at the time, but the monkey wrench in the equation is all of the silver halves that are/were sitting in people's home collections. As the country turns grayer (more aged people), there may be a greater chance that silver finds may increase. All it takes is clueless family members running the coins to the bank when a collector passes away.

Man, how I wish I knew that you could buy boxes of halves 10 or 20 years ago.

Happy Hunting,

Scott (Mid-Mich)

 

[coolcash2004]

Lol Bdoo. I was expecting at least 1 of those!


I hope I come accross a collection!

-CC