Reeded Edge Copper Coin and Red Glass Intaglio - ID Help

[Wampum]

I have had the thin copper with slanted reeded edge for a while, 2011 to be exact. It was my first coin find. The large cent next to it is used for size reference. It appears to be a little over a half as thick as the LC and about the same diameter. The reeded edge coin is very slightly off round. I never posted it here because it is so slick that I thought I couldn't get an ID. I hope the reeded edge and size is enough. The red glass intaglio is my first and I am not sure if it is a cuff link or some other type of jewelry. That was found earlier this year and I'm curious as to what that is as well. Thanks for your help.

 

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[nhbenz]

Is the red intaglio a seal, maybe from a ring?

 

[Wampum]

Is the red intaglio a seal matrix maybe?

I was wondering about that but the pulltab shaped disk on the back doesnt look like the other seal mounts that I have seen. I am leaning more towards jewelry because that disk on the back looks like it would fit through a cuff button hole. It has some gold gilt left on it and it had 3/4 of a piece of braided maybe 26 gauge wire around in the bezel recess and that seems like a wax trap to me.

 

[nhbenz]

Sorry while you were typing I edited my post above. I don't think it's a cufflink, maybe from a watch fob? It needs to be something that someone can manuveur around to use as a wax seal is my thought.

 

[jewelerguy]

very odd that the reeding is somewhat slanted

 

[Wampum]

very odd that the reeding is somewhat slanted

Yeah I am having trouble finding something to compare it too. If only it had a bust or date or at least some detail I'm sure then that you TNet members could figure it out.

 

[huntsman53]

See the Treasure Net thread at the link below as it may point to an answer for the coin! The coin in the thread was found in January of 2010 and in reply #13, gleaner1 mentioned that he found an early Canadian Token that has a slanted reeded edge.

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/t...in-slanted-edge-reeding-two-silver-items.html


Frank

 

[Mackaydon]

There are various varieties of reeding.
Yours is called 'slanted reeding left'.
That may help in attributing your coin or token.
Don...

 

[huntsman53]

Here is another link stating that some of the 1783 Washington pieces were produced with slanted reeded edges.

Third Side of the Coin Called Edge


Frank

 

[Wampum]

Here is another link stating that some of the 1783 Washington pieces were produced with slanted reeded edges.

Third Side of the Coin Called Edge


Frank

I was wondering about this as a possibility. The 1783 Washington does seem to have a left slanted reeded edge from what little I could find about it. Some of the tokens that were referenced had right lean reeds. I see that some people have found counterfeit or filed reeded edges but this appears too sharp for that and too uniform.

Thank you all for your posts. I know I wont be able to get a certain ID but this seems "relatively" solid to me.

 

[huntsman53]

I was wondering about this as a possibility. The 1783 Washington does seem to have a left slanted reeded edge from what little I could find about it. Some of the tokens that were referenced had right lean reeds. I see that some people have found counterfeit or filed reeded edges but this appears too sharp for that and too uniform.

Thank you all for your posts. I know I wont be able to get a certain ID but this seems "relatively" solid to me.

You might try slightly wetting one side, take a pic, then wet the other side and take a pic. Sometimes just a little wetness can bring out details. Another possibility would be to color one side with removable dye or a marker with ink that can be removed, then press the coin into a small stack of white paper on a hard table to see if any details or outline of details shows. If so, then do the other side and see what you get. Any details that show might possibly be identified by some of Treasure Net's more knowledgeable folks on early coinage. The bonus is that once the dye or marker is removed, no harm has been done to the coin.


Frank

 

[Wampum]

You might try slightly wetting one side, take a pic, then wet the other side and take a pic. Sometimes just a little wetness can bring out details. Another possibility would be to color one side with removable dye or a marker with ink that can be removed, then press the coin into a small stack of white paper on a hard table to see if any details or outline of details shows. If so, then do the other side and see what you get. Any details that show might possibly be identified by some of Treasure Net's more knowledgeable folks on early coinage. The bonus is that once the dye or marker is removed, no harm has been done to the coin.


Frank

Thank you for the advice I will definitely try that!