Recovered this old button..needs id? Any help?

[Jpro]

Was hunting relics..CW. Dug bullets, grape shot and this button. Trying to see if its period or not
Back mark is
( Fermin and sons London * Strand)

Any help would be appreciated ...thxs
Jpro

 

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[TheCannonballGuy]

"Firmin & Sons London" first began doing business using that company-name in 1823. The plain-faced brass 1-piece buttons fell out of favor with the public by the end of the 1830s due to the advent of inexpensively-priced "ornate" 2-piece buttons (which became VERY popular in the 1840s). Also, by the 1830s the young American buttonmaking industry had become capable of mass-producing buttons, so there was no longer much need to import "plain" buttons from Britain. Therefore, the backmark and the historical data strongly suggest your button was most probably manufactured sometime between 1823 and the mid-to-late-1830s.

 

[cw0909]

CRUSADER post on dates
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/292629-need-firmin-sons-button-id.html#post2762597

cant see the front of your button, maybe yours is here
UK Finds Database - - - UKDFD
this one is a livery,see where the addy # is
http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/data/202/1217702506mutare_spreno_rear_view.JPG
info pg on img
uk data base for Firmin & Sons
UK Finds Database - - - UKDFD

 

[CC Hunter]

"Firmin & Sons London" first began doing business using that company-name in 1823. The plain-faced brass 1-piece buttons fell out of favor with the public by the end of the 1830s due to the advent of inexpensively-priced "ornate" 2-piece buttons (which became VERY popular in the 1840s). Also, by the 1830s the young American buttonmaking industry had become capable of mass-producing buttons, so there was no longer much need to import "plain" buttons from Britain. Therefore, the backmark and the historical data strongly suggest your button was most probably manufactured sometime between 1823 and the mid-to-late-1830s.

Good Info!



CC Hunter


P.S. The original post contained a couple typos, that are shown corrected in the quote above (London and 1830's)

 

[Jpro]

"Firmin & Sons Lodon" first began doing business using that company-name in 1823. The plain-faced brass 1-piece buttons fell out of favor with the public by the end of the 1930s due to the advent of inexpensively-priced "ornate" 2-piece buttons (which became VERY popular in the 1840s). Also, by the 1830s the young American buttonmaking industry had become capable of mass-producing buttons, so there was no longer much need to import "plain" buttons from Britain. Therefore, the backmark and the historical data strongly suggest your button was most probably manufactured sometime between 1823 and the mid-to-late-1830s.

Thanks Cannonballguy