Quality over Quantity

Groundhogg

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Metal Detecting
Yesterday and today's finds. Not a lot but a few really cool pieces. Yesterday (Pic 1) my usual at this site. some clad, shotgun brass, and some fired lead. Today, on the other hand, was a success, in my opinion. Aside from the usual stuff....I pulled a buckle(?) 2 1/2" x 2", an oval pin(?) 1 1/8"x3/4", and a couple tags. Any information on the pin or the buckle would be greatly appreciated. The best find is the "Selden License" tag.

In 1879, Selden filed the patent for his “Road Engine,” an improvement on an earlier engine known as a Brayton engine. But he also used his knowledge of the patent system to do something a bit sneaky. You see, Selden knew that, at the time, and American patent lasted 17 years not from the date it was filed, but from the date it was granted. He also knew that an inventor had up to two years to respond to queries from the Patent Office. He just waited as long as he could to reply to any queries and did his best to ensure that any reply he gave prompted more queries from the office, keeping his application alive.

Selden realized that, in 1879, there weren’t a lot of folks manufacturing horseless carriages, but he figured it was only a matter of time before the auto industry exploded. So he stalled the approval of his Road Engine application until he felt the time was right. In 1895, as Britain’s Victorian era was coming to a close, the United States Patent Office granted his patent on the Road Engine. It quickly became known simply as the “Selden Patent,” and it was the bane of many an auto manufacturer.

Selden claimed that his patent covered all gas-powered automobiles, and so he collected licensing fees from numerous American auto manufacturers. Many a car made at the turn of the century bore a brass plaque declaring that it was licensed under the Selden Patent.

One manufacturer whose vehicles did not bear the plaque was none other than Henry Ford. After being denied membership in the Association of Licensed Automobile Manufacturers, which, as of 1903, exclusively controlled the rights to the Selden Patent, Ford announced that he was going to manufacturer his automobiles in defiance of the patent, claiming that no working vehicle had ever been made, nor could ever be made from the patent. (Selden tried to build a working motor buggy based on his patent in 1904; during a 1907 test before court officials, the buggy died after moving a mere five yards.) Ford lost an initial lawsuit dealing with the Selden Patent, but won his appeal in 1911. The court held that Selden’s patent applied only to “a two-cycle Brayton engine,” whereas modern car manufacturers, Ford included, utilized four-cycle Otto engines. The reign of the Selden Patent was over.

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Cool plate indeed. Unique finds are always good. I also think that is the coolest bottle cap I've ever seen! 😆
 

Cool plate indeed. Unique finds are always good. I also think that is the coolest bottle cap I've ever seen! 😆
I thought the same thing about the bottle cap. They usually go to the recycle can. I'm keeping this for inspiration because I don't always want to dig them..
 

I really liked the history story supporting the find!
I was surprised that the research was so easy. Then, being a car guy, I was really surprised by the history.
 

I dug a half of that same plate down in Southwest Georgia and didn’t know what it was until now. Thanks.
That's what I like about TNet...you never know what you'll find.
 

Yesterday and today's finds. Not a lot but a few really cool pieces. Yesterday (Pic 1) my usual at this site. some clad, shotgun brass, and some fired lead. Today, on the other hand, was a success, in my opinion. Aside from the usual stuff....I pulled a buckle(?) 2 1/2" x 2", an oval pin(?) 1 1/8"x3/4", and a couple tags. Any information on the pin or the buckle would be greatly appreciated. The best find is the "Selden License" tag.

In 1879, Selden filed the patent for his “Road Engine,” an improvement on an earlier engine known as a Brayton engine. But he also used his knowledge of the patent system to do something a bit sneaky. You see, Selden knew that, at the time, and American patent lasted 17 years not from the date it was filed, but from the date it was granted. He also knew that an inventor had up to two years to respond to queries from the Patent Office. He just waited as long as he could to reply to any queries and did his best to ensure that any reply he gave prompted more queries from the office, keeping his application alive.

Selden realized that, in 1879, there weren’t a lot of folks manufacturing horseless carriages, but he figured it was only a matter of time before the auto industry exploded. So he stalled the approval of his Road Engine application until he felt the time was right. In 1895, as Britain’s Victorian era was coming to a close, the United States Patent Office granted his patent on the Road Engine. It quickly became known simply as the “Selden Patent,” and it was the bane of many an auto manufacturer.

Selden claimed that his patent covered all gas-powered automobiles, and so he collected licensing fees from numerous American auto manufacturers. Many a car made at the turn of the century bore a brass plaque declaring that it was licensed under the Selden Patent.

One manufacturer whose vehicles did not bear the plaque was none other than Henry Ford. After being denied membership in the Association of Licensed Automobile Manufacturers, which, as of 1903, exclusively controlled the rights to the Selden Patent, Ford announced that he was going to manufacturer his automobiles in defiance of the patent, claiming that no working vehicle had ever been made, nor could ever be made from the patent. (Selden tried to build a working motor buggy based on his patent in 1904; during a 1907 test before court officials, the buggy died after moving a mere five yards.) Ford lost an initial lawsuit dealing with the Selden Patent, but won his appeal in 1911. The court held that Selden’s patent applied only to “a two-cycle Brayton engine,” whereas modern car manufacturers, Ford included, utilized four-cycle Otto engines. The reign of the Selden Patent was over.

Thanks for looking.
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Nice!!! Congrats!!!
 

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