Pre - civil war siege coin 1644, field 1

[rubberdiver13]

while out nr my town, visited a field known for roman coin finds in 1800s, walked out onto a vast field, and decided to walk in a straight line from one corner of the gate, id entered to the tree & gate in the other corner....upon walking, lots of old broken pipe tubes were everywhere, odd roman black glazed pottery, odd glass work (from making glass wear), lots of iron deposits from kilns, the odd bit of metal deposits, then 1" below the surface...... a 1644 siege coin, minted at the worcester mint ( 1643 to 1644 ), during King Charles 1 reign, it has the three pears on the crest on the rear.....a return trip i think is nessassary....as it tipped it down with rain, and i only spent 3/4 hr on the field....but im very pleased as its my first siege coin , value ?, others from the worcester mint vary from £650 to £2,800 VF.....
its location is nr the 1651 battlefield

 

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[CRUSADER]

Re: civil war siege coin 1644, field 1

Its a 17th Century Token - otherwise known as a brass farthing. Its where the expression 'its not worth a brass farthing' came from. If you can read read the name of the person & other details I will ID it for you.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: civil war siege coin 1644, field 1

1644 would be too early for this type, maybe a 1654 or 64?

It looks to be in very good condition for a brass farthing, if its your first, it may take some beating to get a better one

Probably a £20 token to the right collector.

 

[curbdiggercarl57]

Re: civil war siege coin 1644, field 1

No, no, the Civil war was from 1861-1865. Silly English person!

 

[Silver Searcher]

Re: civil war siege coin 1644, field 1

1644 would be too early for this type, maybe a 1654 or 64?

It looks to be in very good condition for a brass farthing, if its your first, it may take some beating to get a better one

Probably a £20 token to the right collector.

I'm afraid the Cru is right it is as he says a nice token if it had been a siege piece it wouldn't be round for a start, siege pieces were usually made from the Silver plates from the castles were the the sieges took place, often having the decorative sides of the plates still visible on the coins which were crudely made and normally diamond in shape, but you are quite right on one point, there worth a bloody fortune

 

[allen]

Re: civil war siege coin 1644, field 1

looks like that field might give
up some nice goodies for you...

 

[rubberdiver13]

Re: civil war siege coin 1644, field 1

ive looked it up, its got the three pears, as you can see..its dated 1644...i can see it, and its c.r.s. , its not a farthing...

http:// www.kenelks.co.uk/coins/stuart/stuart.htm

 

[rubberdiver13]

Re: civil war siege coin 1644, field 1

1644 would be too early for this type, maybe a 1654 or 64?

It looks to be in very good condition for a brass farthing, if its your first, it may take some beating to get a better one

Probably a £20 token to the right collector.

I'm afraid the Cru is right it is as he says a nice token if it had been a siege piece it wouldn't be round for a start, siege pieces were usually made from the Silver plates from the castles were the the sieges took place, often having the decorative sides of the plates still visible on the coins which were crudely made and normally diamond in shape, but you are quite right on one point, there worth a bloody fortune

its round, see it with the pottery shot, all siege pieces were not square, or triangles, charles 1 1644 coins are round, newark were irregular shapes, stamped with castles an such

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: civil war siege coin 1644, field 1

ive looked it up, its got the three pears, as you can see..its dated 1644...i can see it, and its c.r.s. , its not a farthing...

What reference book have you looked it up in?

These tokens were produced during the Civil War & after in many towns by many tradesmen. The 3 Pears are the City Arms of Worcester. Around the edge will follow a pattern of (just a made up example):

Obv: *RICHARD ADNEY OF then turn it over
Rev: WORCESTER (or however it was spelt) 1664* & sometimes there profession like DRAPER.

If you can take a better photo or tell me most of the letters around the edge with ?'s if you don't know the letter, then I will give a full ID.

Its a very good token.

 

[CRUSADER]

http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/coins/opac/

The click on 'View' next to - 17th-century Tokens (entire collection)

Above is a good link to hundreds of them.

 

[pgill]

Sorry I cannot say what it is, but it does look like in great condition. All I can say is a very big well done Please get back there so we can see more.

God bless
Peter

 

[DugHoles]

Well done

Happy Hunting,

Dugholes

 

[rubberdiver13]

Sorry I cannot say what it is, but it does look like in great condition. All I can say is a very big well done Please get back there so we can see more.

God bless
Peter

day 2
found several more pottery pieces, from roman flooring,to civil war 16th cent black enamelled drinking bowls, to 18th cent preserve jugs, and various metal work at present, the coin at present is being cleaned by worcestershire archaelogical dept,

 

[John (Ma)]

Some interesting finds there.

 

[Deno]

You English guys are so lucky to have such old goodies. Congratulations

 

[Jerry1NJ]

Great finds!!!

 

[pgill]

rubberdiver13, I will be joining you guys over there in England sooner or later. I was originally from Northamptonshire but left there in 1973. Well both the wifes and my family are all over there, so we are now going to return back to England. I cannot wait to get back for the metal detecting, as in South Africa it is not an easy hobby to carry on with. No clubs that are opperating, and not as rich a history as England. Umm maybe one day I will detect with you
I read about the one lady on Tnet who glued a pot together that she had found, to find out that the pot is worth a fair amount of money..... so keep collecting that pottery.

God bless
Peter

 

[rubberdiver13]

the local museum wants to buy it

 

[Finman]

Nice find, Congrats!!!

HH Joe

 

[STH69]

neat finds