possible wallet clip?

[coin1921]

Thought i would share this and ask if my research is accurate. This item was found at the site of a town burnt out by a forest fire in the 1920's. In researching this, my thoughts are that it is a wallet clip issued by the Baltijos lloydas Steamship line. The Kaunas steamship was used to bring people over from Europe to Canada and the United States prior to it being sunk by a U boat in 1939. F. Missler was the owner of a large steamship company who issued Wallets to the passengers to carry their tickets and papers. Is it possible that this could be a clip to hold the items in the Wallet? I have included a pic of a "toonie" to show the size of this piece.

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

It looks like an old matchbox cover or matchbox holder.

Here is another similar WWI era matchbox cover.

 

[coin1921]

Thanks Bigcypresshunter,

That seems to be a closer "fit" than a clip.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Its a very cool find. Steamship memorabilia is collectible and this steamship is special with all the history to go with it.

Heres something interesting. http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-F-Missl...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf04d3256

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Something I just noticed the word Lietuvos. Its a Lithuanian word. My grandparents were immigrants from Lithuania. I think the whole thing is written in Lithuanian. Can you translate? If not, I can find someone that can. What state did you find it in?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

My Lithuanian is almost non existant. All I can guess is "American, Canadian, Argentinean, Uruguayan" and something about a visa. It appears to be a matchbook cover from a Lithuanian steamship.

 

[turtlefoot13]

I don't think it is a wallet but the match holder is a good guess. From what I found F. Missler was a ticket agent and not an actual steamship company. I believe that you are correct about the Baltijos lloydas (or Baltic LLoyd) line. I don't think it is from the Kaunas ship though. I belieive it is the address to the F. Missler office in Kaunas, Lithuania. Roughly translated:

Baltic Lloyd
Kaunas
Liberty Ave 24
Tel 757

or as we would recognize today:

Baltic Lloyd
24 Liberty Ave
Kaunas
telephone 757

Here is a pic of one of the wallets that F. Missler gave out.

 

[turtlefoot13]

In your second pic. the top line reads:
? Lithuanian Department Argentina [Rise(?)]

BigCy
Visas kitas pasaulio salis = all the rest of the world

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

We dont see matchbook covers here too often but here is another. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,260397.0.htmlhttp://

Im sorry its matchbox cover.. Its not really a guess. I have a set here Im going to sell on eBay complete with the original matches.. You may be right about the Missler office in Lithuania.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

In your second pic. the top line reads:
? Lithuanian Department Argentina [Rise(?)]

BigCy
Visas kitas pasaulio salis = all the rest of the world

The second pic appears to be a Buenos Aires street(calle) address. http://www.edinburgh-gazette.co.uk/issues/13430/pages/1402/page.pdf

 

[turtlefoot13]

The first line on the top pic reads boat (something) sale.

I said guess, I was meaning ID. I knew what I meant but that doesn't everyone else can read my mind huh. Nice job

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The first line on the top pic reads boat (something) sale.

I said guess, I was meaning ID. I knew what I meant but that doesn't everyone else can read my mind huh. Nice job

Its cool I have 2 covers here complete with matches. If I get around to it, Ill take a pic.

I think you are correct about the ticket agent Missler.

I think the item is from Buenos Aires, Argentina. http://www.edinburgh-gazette.co.uk/issues/13430/pages/1402/page.pdf (bottom right up 3 names)...or Kaunus, Lithuania? maybe the main office is in Kaunus.

 

[turtlefoot13]

I was thinking it was from Lithuania since most of the writing is Lithuanian with a touch of Latvian. I figured it was letting the Lithuanina people looking to immigrate to North/South America know that the Baltic Lloyd took passengers all around the world with secondary advertising from their largest ticket agent showing their office in Argentina. I am just throwing out a guess though.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I was thinking it was from Lithuania since most of the writing is Lithuanian with a touch of Latvian. I figured it was letting the Lithuanina people looking to immigrate to North/South America know that the Baltic Lloyd took passengers all around the world with secondary advertising from their largest ticket agent showing their office in Argentina. I am just throwing out a guess though.

sounds more likely with the telephone number appearing to be in Kaunus, Lithuania. I didnt realize Lithuanians immigrated to South America. I guess a lot of Germans did as well.

What state was this found in?


Laisvės alėja (Liberty Avenue) pedestrian street in central Kaunas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laisvės_alėja

 

[coin1921]

It was found in the origonal site of the town of Crannberry, Manitoba, Canada. This site was destroyed by a forest fire in the 20's, and the town relocated close by. I notice on one side the telephone # of 757 and on the top edge, a phone # of 666 for F. Missler.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

It was found in the origonal site of the town of Crannberry, Manitoba, Canada. This site was destroyed by a forest fire in the 20's, and the town relocated close by. I notice on one side the telephone # of 757 and on the top edge, a phone # of 666 for F. Missler.

"Calle San Martin 666" is not a phone number, its the address of the Missler ticket agent in Buenas Aires, Argentina. (Calle is the Spanish word for street) so in English its 666 San Martin Street, Buenos Aires, Argentina.

http://www.edinburgh-gazette.co.uk/issues/13430/pages/1402/page.pdf

This is most likely not from the steamship but more likely from the Missler ticket agent office in Kaunus, Lithuania, as it is written in Lithuanian and the phone number is from the Missler ticket office on Laisvės Al. 24 (24 Liberty Street) in Kaunus, Lithuania.

My guess is that the matchbox cover advertisement was picked up in Lithuania before immigration to Canada, very possibly on the Baltijos Lloydas Steamship line. I would imagine there is always the possibility that it was picked up on the steamship itself.

 

[coin1921]

Thanks very much Bigcypresshunter, i would marked this solved.