***Possible Bayonet and other Items (Revolutionary War Site) Need Help!!***

[pjroo33]

Any Ideas?

 

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[SwampCreek]

10 gauge pinfire shotgun cartridges.

 

[pjroo33]

I kinda thought those looked too modern to be Rev War era. Thanks!

 

[SwampCreek]

Wish I could help with the other piece. Sure looks like part of a bayonet to me, but I'm far from an expert.

 

[stefen]

The silver item looks like a concho...need to see the back to see if has a soldered screw or a loop...

If it's a screw it probably from a saddle, and if it's a loop its possible from a bridle.

 

[goldencoin]

Yeah, the silvery thing is a bridle rosette (don't think it's old) and I'm pretty sure that's a bayonet. After the civil war, bayonets like yours were banned because the wound they caused could not be treated easily, as it left a hole instead of a stab wound. Can't say the exact date though

HH
-GC

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

I believe the iron object you found is indeed a broken-off section of an 18th or 19th-century bayonet's blade ...because it has the typical "wide triangle" profile of blades seen on most of the socket-type bayonets in that period of history.

I agree with SwampCreek that you also found some Pinfire-type 10-gauge shotgun cartridge bases. As you guessed, they do not date back to the American Revolutionary War era. However, they do date from the 1850s into roughly the 1870s. (The Pinfire primer-system rapidly fell out of favor after the advent of Centerfire-primer cartridge ammunition, which went into widespread production and availability in the 1870s.)

 

[pjroo33]

I believe the iron object you found is indeed a broken-off section of an 18th or 19th-century bayonet's blade ...because it has the typical "wide triangle" profile of blades seen on most of the socket-type bayonets in that period of history.

I agree with SwampCreek that you also found some Pinfire-type 10-gauge shotgun cartridge bases. As you guessed, they do not date back to the American Revolutionary War era. However, they do date from the 1850s into roughly the 1870s. (The Pinfire primer-system rapidly fell out of favor after the advent of Centerfire-primer cartridge ammunition, which went into widespread production and availability in the 1870s.)

Thanks for the info....

It seems like it has all of the characteristics of a three sided bayonet. The area I was hunting was littered with iron. Believe it or not, I was digging the (rosette??) and the possible bayonet was in the same hole. I found it unintentionally. I really should go back to that spot and dig more iron targets. Maybe the other piece of the "bayonet" is still there. Hope I can remember where I was.

There is no doubt there was Rev War activity in the area. I did find some melted lead as well.

 

[uglymailman]

Harrow tooth? Usually pulled behind disk to help breakup soil. About the size I was ever around but I remember them as 4 sided.

 

[stefen]

Concho is a Spanish (western) name for a rosette...

 

[timekiller]

Hey pjroo33,
I wanted to let you know your broke tip could also be from a sword. And would go well with your other finds for a time frame.It's possible that it is the end of a broken US MODEL 1860 FIELD & STAFF OFFICERS SWORD.
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/9433263
I've found a part of a Rev. War bayonet sure it's what it was as it came from the site I dug the continental pewter 10th reg button & lieutenant tudor rose but it was much more triangled shaped then yours.
scroll down
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,285912.0.html
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/9433263

 

[timekiller]

I believe the iron object you found is indeed a broken-off section of an 18th or 19th-century bayonet's blade ...because it has the typical "wide triangle" profile of blades seen on most of the socket-type bayonets in that period of history.

I second this.

I third this. Yea after looking into it more the two sides would be the same so it would be more diamond shaped if it was a broke sword.Bayonet it is
Take Care,
Pete,

 

[pjroo33]

I believe the iron object you found is indeed a broken-off section of an 18th or 19th-century bayonet's blade ...because it has the typical "wide triangle" profile of blades seen on most of the socket-type bayonets in that period of history.

I second this.

I third this. Yea after looking into it more the two sides would be the same so it would be more diamond shaped if it was a broke sword.Bayonet it is
Take Care,
Pete,

Thanks Pete,
It is exciting to think that I might have actually found the tip to a Rev War bayonet. It also frustrates me to think that I "might" have found the tip to a Rev War bayonet. I'm still searching for that elusive item that is guaranteed to be from the war. Seeing that Pennsylvania State Regiment button on the banner really gets the juices flowing. One of my biggest goals is to find a regiment button. I've found musket balls and plenty of lead, but no definitive war item. If I can locate the remaining piece or pieces of the bayonet, I will sleep a little better.