✅ SOLVED please help me date this site

[ga/digger]

Digging a plantation kitchen in my back yard. Trying to date the site. Found pounds of grey and orange iron slag. What are these. Any help will help.

 

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[ga/digger]

forgot the gold thing

Digging a plantation kitchen in my back yard. Trying to date the site. Found pounds of grey and orange iron slag. What are these. Any help will help.View attachment 941765View attachment 941766View attachment 941767View attachment 941768

Oh yea, I forgot the gold thing

 

[xrunndonex]

Oh yea, I forgot the gold thing<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=941770"/>

No no no don't give her a ring on the first date!

 

[DigIron2]

how can ya forget the gold ring man?I would say middle 19th century or earlyer, looking at the locks.Is that really a gold ring you found there?post it again if so.Is that a mold top left?nice old finds

 

[ga/digger]

how can ya forget the gold ring man?I would say middle 19th century or earlyer, looking at the locks.Is that really a gold ring you found there?post it again if so.Is that a mold top left?nice old finds

found a two piece button today, left facing eagle with striped shield. woo hoo!!! hey wait, that's federal right?

 

[Broken knee]

found a two piece button today, left facing eagle with striped shield. woo hoo!!! hey wait, that's federal right?View attachment 943217View attachment 943218

the thing at the 12" mark is a civil war era stirrup. http://sgtriker.com/images/ironstirrup.jpg HH
BK

 

[ga/digger]

the thing at the 12" mark is a civil war era stirrup. http://sgtriker.com/images/ironstirrup.jpg HH
BK

thank you. i found a two piece eagle with striped shield today. thats cw federal right?

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Added info.

Yes, your button with vertical stripes in the shield on the eagle's chest is a civil war US Army button, issued from 1854 to 1874, for use on Enlisted-men's uniforms (private, corporal, sergeant). At that time, the buttons for US Army Field-grade Officers had the single-letter initial of their branch of service (such as Artillery or Cavalry or Infantry) in the center of the shield on the eagle's chest.

The iron-bodied heart-shaped padlock with a brass keyhole-cover marked simply "Patent" can date anywhere from the 1700s through the early 20th Century.

Unfortunately, your stirrup cannot be dated only to the civil war, nor certified as a Military-issue one. That same form was used by civilians from the early-1800s into the early 1900. In your photos it looks thin-bodied, which means "light duty" construction, for civilian use. Military-issue ones were thicker-bodied. Compare yours with this iron US Model-1904 McClellan Saddle stirrup.

As you are discovering, very old house-sites are almost always "contaminated" with relics from long after the civil war, lost or thrown away by the civilian occupants.

 

[ga/digger]

Thank you once again for sharing your wealth of knowledge with all of us. You sure know your stuff. I have traced the origins of these objects to a family who settled hear in the late 1700's and continued to contribute to my finds for over 3 generations. Then is was sold off to others who left things for me to find and wonder about. I don't see the newer objects as contaminates any more that colonial relics contaminated native american sites. Or native american artifacts contaminating stone age archeology. To me it is a continuum of the history of this place. My kids and I have lost objects, changed the architecture of the land and left clues for those who investigate this property in the future. Life is short. Live it.

 

[ga/digger]

i found a thicker one in the front yard

Yes, your button with vertical stripes in the shield on the eagle's chest is a civil war US Army button, issued from 1854 to 1874, for use on Enlisted-men's uniforms (private, corporal, sergeant). At that time, the buttons for US Army Field-grade Officers had the single-letter initial of their branch of service (such as Artillery or Cavalry or Infantry) in the center of the shield on the eagle's chest.

The iron-bodied heart-shaped padlock with a brass keyhole-cover marked simply "Patent" can date anywhere from the 1700s through the early 20th Century.

Unfortunately, your stirrup cannot be dated only to the civil war, nor certified as a Military-issue one. That same form was used by civilians from the early-1800s into the early 1900. In your photos it looks thin-bodied, which means "light duty" construction, for civilian use. Military-issue ones were thicker-bodied. Compare yours with this iron US Model-1904 McClellan Saddle stirrup.

As you are discovering, very old house-sites are almost always "contaminated" with relics from long after the civil war, lost or thrown away by the civilian occupants.

i thought someone told me what this could be.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

It is stirrup whose flat "foot-rest" base is broken off. Very difficult to accurately date, except that most are from sometime in the 1800s.

 

[Tedyoh]

Nice finds Digger - when I was a kid my dad had one of those talking / singing fish like you have on your wall......Billy Bass I think it was called........I hated that thing, took it outside shoved a M-80 in its mouth and blew it up. Thanks for putting a smile on my face this morning and bringing back some memories.......

 

[ga/digger]

Nice finds Digger - when I was a kid my dad had one of those talking / singing fish like you have on your wall......Billy Bass I think it was called........I hated that thing, took it outside shoved a M-80 in its mouth and blew it up. Thanks for putting a smile on my face this morning and bringing back some memories.......

your welcome