lonewolfe
Gold Member
- Feb 14, 2005
- 5,547
- 585
- 🥇 Banner finds
- 1
- Detector(s) used
- A stick with a box at one end and a round thing on the other.
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
There is something good that comes from almost everything and even though my favorite beach has been completely covered & hunted by hunters swinging coils summer and winter, I learned something of value by watching them long ago. They each work like a mouse in a maze of his own. They walk in preprogrammed pathways and seldom vary from that path. The funny thing is, it is not always the novices that do this but also the old pros.
This goes on winter and summer and even though the beach is clean of all goodies for a while they still do not stray from their path/s until they just give up and go home. All of us can recall when we first ventured out there into all that area when we didn't know where to go or much less how to hunt. The strange thing is that we all seem to hold those first finds in a picture in our mind and we turn on our detector and try to repeat the process.
Treasure of course can be scattered all over the place but we all have our favorite paths we work over. We find comfort in our well known footpaths and even though our finds may drop considerably, we still plod along believing a newer & better machine will be the answer to finding that over looked treasure.
This is not the only thing the newbies & old pro's alike do and believe. They generally set their machine when they get to a hunting area and just leave it in one position without adjustment for the soil, minerals, conditions, etc. time after time. How many of us have hunted a long while only to discover that a knob had accidentally been turned and we did not even notice? Or if using "pre-programmed" machines, just leave it set in one setting, and never adjust it outside of the pre-sets??
Another bad habit is that after learning all the things that you should not do, then, they tend to forget and one of the first things to go is how they should swing the coil. The worst thing I see is someone walking hunched over and swinging the coil back and forth between their feet! This was not a novice either. The other thing I see a lot is that tall guys just never learn to use a rod extension or just to pull the rod out all the way. You should have your wrist at least a foot from your belt as you swing the coil and they get tired and make such tiny sweeps that they could never find anything. I catch myself from time to time passing the coil from one side to the other and then continuing behind my back(bad!) I swing a 6 foot path and do it quickly (2 seconds or less) if I am scanning for a new patch of coins, but also (I slow way down when I find them). It also makes no sense to do a sweep pattern/grid if you are not finding anything. I also see them swing the coil like a pendulum, and that one makes me laugh every time! To find the older deeper things, you have to hold the coil level and very close to the ground and then find out what sweep speed your detector can handle. I tend to get a signal by swinging fast that won't show up if I move slow while using my GTI 2500, but, it's the exact opposite when using my CZ20.
The new hunters have to learn of course where to find the best goodie's and as they move far afield they may just stumble onto one of the best finds that the pros have never found. They have not accepted a pre-set hunting program yet and do not follow old footpaths because they don't have any yet. The biggest problem of the new hunter though, is, the very first few times they go hunting, they find the most over hunted trashy parks & schools that are possible to find which leads them to have very disappointing first experiences. I recall one of my first trips to a park some 20+ yrs ago and walking around staring intently at the target ID meter just waiting for a silver dollar to pop up (boy was that a dissappointing experience)! After hunting for a long, long time, I finally triumphed with one penny and at least 20 pull tabs!
We all need to include new places to hunt and new ways to hunt our older spots and we should never stop learning our detector/s. I still learn something new almost every time I hunt. I have been hunting much of the older spots but using new techniques to hunt far deeper than before. Also I have spent considerable time over the yrs analyzing all the sounds we get when we think its just another rusty chunk of iron. I came to realize long ago that I was very wrong by just discriminating it out for many yrs! I can tell if it is really iron, rust deposits, or out of ID range goodies. This morning I found a copper penny at 12 inches deep. You have to pay attention to the nulling effects in autotune, to the target profile, and to signal abnormalities. For instance, you can be fooled easily by nothing more than shallow rust which may show up as a deep object or by a fairly deep large object that signals strong. My point by digressing is to bring out that you should be expanding your experience and not just repeating the same old habits.
When the goodies play out and you still feel like returning once more to that favorite spot then use the trip to learn more about your machine/s. Learn about iron, don't despise it! Play a game with yourself the next time you go there. Find what you think is an out of range target or iron and take ten minutes to play with this signal in various modes and then when you think you have figured it out, take the time to dig it and before long, you will be astounding your friends and yourself with your finds!
This goes on winter and summer and even though the beach is clean of all goodies for a while they still do not stray from their path/s until they just give up and go home. All of us can recall when we first ventured out there into all that area when we didn't know where to go or much less how to hunt. The strange thing is that we all seem to hold those first finds in a picture in our mind and we turn on our detector and try to repeat the process.
Treasure of course can be scattered all over the place but we all have our favorite paths we work over. We find comfort in our well known footpaths and even though our finds may drop considerably, we still plod along believing a newer & better machine will be the answer to finding that over looked treasure.
This is not the only thing the newbies & old pro's alike do and believe. They generally set their machine when they get to a hunting area and just leave it in one position without adjustment for the soil, minerals, conditions, etc. time after time. How many of us have hunted a long while only to discover that a knob had accidentally been turned and we did not even notice? Or if using "pre-programmed" machines, just leave it set in one setting, and never adjust it outside of the pre-sets??
Another bad habit is that after learning all the things that you should not do, then, they tend to forget and one of the first things to go is how they should swing the coil. The worst thing I see is someone walking hunched over and swinging the coil back and forth between their feet! This was not a novice either. The other thing I see a lot is that tall guys just never learn to use a rod extension or just to pull the rod out all the way. You should have your wrist at least a foot from your belt as you swing the coil and they get tired and make such tiny sweeps that they could never find anything. I catch myself from time to time passing the coil from one side to the other and then continuing behind my back(bad!) I swing a 6 foot path and do it quickly (2 seconds or less) if I am scanning for a new patch of coins, but also (I slow way down when I find them). It also makes no sense to do a sweep pattern/grid if you are not finding anything. I also see them swing the coil like a pendulum, and that one makes me laugh every time! To find the older deeper things, you have to hold the coil level and very close to the ground and then find out what sweep speed your detector can handle. I tend to get a signal by swinging fast that won't show up if I move slow while using my GTI 2500, but, it's the exact opposite when using my CZ20.
The new hunters have to learn of course where to find the best goodie's and as they move far afield they may just stumble onto one of the best finds that the pros have never found. They have not accepted a pre-set hunting program yet and do not follow old footpaths because they don't have any yet. The biggest problem of the new hunter though, is, the very first few times they go hunting, they find the most over hunted trashy parks & schools that are possible to find which leads them to have very disappointing first experiences. I recall one of my first trips to a park some 20+ yrs ago and walking around staring intently at the target ID meter just waiting for a silver dollar to pop up (boy was that a dissappointing experience)! After hunting for a long, long time, I finally triumphed with one penny and at least 20 pull tabs!
We all need to include new places to hunt and new ways to hunt our older spots and we should never stop learning our detector/s. I still learn something new almost every time I hunt. I have been hunting much of the older spots but using new techniques to hunt far deeper than before. Also I have spent considerable time over the yrs analyzing all the sounds we get when we think its just another rusty chunk of iron. I came to realize long ago that I was very wrong by just discriminating it out for many yrs! I can tell if it is really iron, rust deposits, or out of ID range goodies. This morning I found a copper penny at 12 inches deep. You have to pay attention to the nulling effects in autotune, to the target profile, and to signal abnormalities. For instance, you can be fooled easily by nothing more than shallow rust which may show up as a deep object or by a fairly deep large object that signals strong. My point by digressing is to bring out that you should be expanding your experience and not just repeating the same old habits.
When the goodies play out and you still feel like returning once more to that favorite spot then use the trip to learn more about your machine/s. Learn about iron, don't despise it! Play a game with yourself the next time you go there. Find what you think is an out of range target or iron and take ten minutes to play with this signal in various modes and then when you think you have figured it out, take the time to dig it and before long, you will be astounding your friends and yourself with your finds!
Upvote
0
I think I just learned more in the last 2 minutes then I have all week and I've been on every site I can find 
I can not add anything to this except to hope that everyone on the Forum has a chance to read it. HH
