Pinellas County Park Regulations

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Sovereign62

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First post and wish it was different. I recently got into THing/Coinshooting and have found it to be pretty fun. If anyone wants to hunt on the weekends give me a shout and maybe we can put our heads together to hunt some decent spots....

I found out that ALL inland Pinellas County (not city) parks do not allow metal detecting of any kind without written permission from a "county administrator". This is per county regulation 90-5. The only park which specifically mentions detecting seems to be Fort Desoto and requires a permit from the park office. I'm working on getting future permission for a "county administrator" but we will see on that one.

Schools... By Florida law schools are much different that any other property and although paid for by tax dollars are not public property. Also. no trespass warning needs to be given... If you're on the property you can be arrested without warning.

810.097 Trespass upon grounds or facilities of a school; penalties; arrest.--

(1) Any person who:

(a) Does not have legitimate business on the campus or any other authorization, license, or invitation to enter or remain upon school property; or

(b) Is a student currently under suspension or expulsion;

and who enters or remains upon the campus or any other facility owned by any such school commits a trespass upon the grounds of a school facility and is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(2) Any person who enters or remains upon the campus or other facility of a school after the principal of such school, or his or her designee, has directed such person to leave such campus or facility or not to enter upon the campus or facility, commits a trespass upon the grounds of a school facility and is guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(3) The chief administrative officer of a school, or any employee thereof designated by the chief administrative officer to maintain order on such campus or facility, who has probable cause to believe that a person is trespassing upon school grounds in violation of this section may take such person into custody and detain him or her in a reasonable manner for a reasonable length of time pending arrival of a law enforcement officer. Such taking into custody and detention by an authorized person does not render that person criminally or civilly liable for false arrest, false imprisonment, or unlawful detention. If a trespasser is taken into custody, a law enforcement officer shall be called to the scene immediately after the person is taken into custody.
 

I might be able to get out with ya' from time to time. :)

Bran <><
 

godisnum1 said:
I might be able to get out with ya' from time to time. :)

Bran <><

Sounds good. It's kind of a bummer detecting in Pinellas as everything seems to be fenced off, posted, or simply doesn't allow you detect at all. North county might be a bit better if you can find the right spots....
 

Welcome to the wonderful hobby of picking up garbage and being unappreciated for it! (every now and then you get lucky)

The intent of the law is not to take you to jail for being on school property on Sunday afternoon. It was enacted for very different reasons, and no... I don't believe any law enforcement officer will immediately arrest you for detecting on school property. You may be told to leave, but that is about it. Fill your holes, and they might not even mind.

Just to be sure though, ask someone at the office to test the waters. Make sure you tell them about how you fill holes, and more importantly, pick up all the little sharp metal objects that kids can cut themselves on. They may be happy to have you there.
 

G.I.B. said:
Welcome to the wonderful hobby of picking up garbage and being unappreciated for it! (every now and then you get lucky)

The intent of the law is not to take you to jail for being on school property on Sunday afternoon. It was enacted for very different reasons, and no... I don't believe any law enforcement officer will immediately arrest you for detecting on school property. You may be told to leave, but that is about it. Fill your holes, and they might not even mind.

Just to be sure though, ask someone at the office to test the waters. Make sure you tell them about how you fill holes, and more importantly, pick up all the little sharp metal objects that kids can cut themselves on. They may be happy to have you there.

G.I.B. - With all due respect, My reason for posting the Florida statute is to let fellow MDer's know that You Can be arrested Without warning on school board property. That is called "the letter of the law" which I know is not the "spirit of the law" as it was intended. Never the less, I just wanted to make people aware as most people are under the impression that the schools have to post signs and give warnings... They don't. Police officers vary just like anyone else and I would hate to see anyone placed under arrest for simply detecting on school property. Even if these charges were later dropped, it would still show as an arrest. Just trying to save someone a great deal of heartache.

I also hope you will trust me when I say that I am an expert on florida law as it refers to crime *wink*
 

I've got 25 years as a Florida deputy sheriff...

There are a zillion laws out there that people won't get 'arrested' for. Cops simply do not have enough time to cuff and stuff some old geezer standing on the school property on Sunday afternoon who dug, and filled a couple of holes. If the police did that, they would also have to arrest all the kids on the ball fields, basketball courts, and the general public who are using the oval track at the high school to run laps for exercise...

I would like to see people arrested for throwing cigarettes out the window, littering, using foul language in public restaurants, teenagers driving like idiots, motorcycles with no mufflers...

The list goes on~
 

Sovereign62 said:
First post and wish it was different. I recently got into THing/Coinshooting and have found it to be pretty fun. If anyone wants to hunt on the weekends give me a shout and maybe we can put our heads together to hunt some decent spots....

I found out that ALL inland Pinellas County (not city) parks do not allow metal detecting of any kind without written permission from a "county administrator". This is per county regulation 90-5. The only park which specifically mentions detecting seems to be Fort Desoto and requires a permit from the park office. I'm working on getting future permission for a "county administrator" but we will see on that one.

Schools... By Florida law schools are much different that any other property and although paid for by tax dollars are not public property. Also. no trespass warning needs to be given... If you're on the property you can be arrested without warning.

810.097 Trespass upon grounds or facilities of a school; penalties; arrest.--

(1) Any person who:

(a) Does not have legitimate business on the campus or any other authorization, license, or invitation to enter or remain upon school property; or

(b) Is a student currently under suspension or expulsion;

and who enters or remains upon the campus or any other facility owned by any such school commits a trespass upon the grounds of a school facility and is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(2) Any person who enters or remains upon the campus or other facility of a school after the principal of such school, or his or her designee, has directed such person to leave such campus or facility or not to enter upon the campus or facility, commits a trespass upon the grounds of a school facility and is guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(3) The chief administrative officer of a school, or any employee thereof designated by the chief administrative officer to maintain order on such campus or facility, who has probable cause to believe that a person is trespassing upon school grounds in violation of this section may take such person into custody and detain him or her in a reasonable manner for a reasonable length of time pending arrival of a law enforcement officer. Such taking into custody and detention by an authorized person does not render that person criminally or civilly liable for false arrest, false imprisonment, or unlawful detention. If a trespasser is taken into custody, a law enforcement officer shall be called to the scene immediately after the person is taken into custody.
Man, the more I get to know Pinellas County, the more they suck.... You guys must really have a shiatload of Elitists in that Government... I have never read more drivel in my life that I have that document..
Here is how I look at it.. Parks are one thing I guess... You would think that as long as you didnt dig, and just found surface stuff, they wouldnt care.. But someone on that Commission has a major bug up their ass when it comes to us MD'ers..
But if I can take my kid to a beach in Pinellas County, no matter where it is in that county, and they can dig huge holes in the sand while they are playing, build sand castles, etc., then they in no way can stop me from MD'ing... How can they? That is no different then them saying "we dont like the way you comb your hair, so you are not allowed in our parks or on our beaches"... Equal treatment for all... And if they dont like holes, why dont they exterminate all the squirrels in the park? They do a TON of damage...
F'ing elitistists.. Pardon me, but this issue really gets me steamed...

Rant over...
 

Silver Surfer... :)

I REALLY understand your frustration. I moved from Pinellas last November after living their over 40 years. Between the crime and the micro managing laws, county and city ordinances it was just too much for me. I now live in the beautiful state of Tennessee where the vast majority of people I meet are wonderful people and the crime rate is still under control. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to do much MDing but I'm hoping to join a club or find a buddy or two that know the area.

I won't go on a rant about Pinellas where I was raised and raised my own children as the area was pretty good to me but when I left it wasn't the place I remember growing up in.
 

Hi I am new to this and looking for some good places and could get together with you also if you would like
 

johnc149 said:
Hi I am new to this and looking for some good places and could get together with you also if you would like

If I can find some free time between my full time work schedule and my full time college schedule, I might be able to make it out with you sometime... :)

You can add me on Facebook if you want, since I'm on there quite a bit and have all messages forwarded to my cell phone.
http://www.facebook.com/godisnum1

Bran <><
 

I can tell you having worked for a school that if you want to do anything on school property you need to get permission . Normally it will be given if its during a school day and its does not interfere with school or damage the grounds . They may require you to go thru the cobra system for sex offenders and criminal records . If your going to MD i advise contacting the custodial/grounds department and the school lead administrator . You may find them willing to work with you in exchange for a demo to the kids for in your elementary schools and just trash detail for larger schools . When i worked the HS we would of gladly let someone MD in exchange for picking up a bucket of trash on the grounds .
 

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