Piece of 8?

[Blkcloud]

A buddy of mine from g this the other day, I’m guessing it’s a piece of 8.. but why is it copper color and not silver?

 

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[Mackaydon]

If it isn't .896 fine silver, it isn't an authentic 8R.
Maybe, under all that crud, it is silver.
Don.....

 

[Kenosha Kid]

https://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins.pl?coin=2334

that is the coin. yours has a Mexico City mint mark. as to why yours is copper colored

 

[CRUSADER]

Most likely a counterfeit, I've found a couple, yours just hasn't got its plating.
It's not 'a piece' of 8, as that refers to it after its been cut into pieces.

 

[ARC]

I will pipe in on this one.

SOMETIMES... REPEAT sometimes... rarely actually...

They color this way from time to time when in the right environment... many times in a jewelry box over years next to certain other metals.

Take your finger hard and rub it vigorously and post your results... use a rag as well... IF it continues to be copper... fake.

IF it "cleans" it... then real.

Reale real. :P

 

[ARC]

Most likely a counterfeit, I've found a couple, yours just hasn't got its plating.
It's not 'a piece' of 8, as that refers to it after its been cut into pieces.

Errr... I couldn't help it... :P

Um... actually... Your a "Brit"... the term comes from you guys... it is not called a "piece of eight" because of cutting... its because of its denomination.

Yes these were cut and called this... but this is actually 8 reales. and marked as such.

You Brits... nicknamed the "pieces".... ready for it... "Bits".

"Hence, the British called the Spanish dollar a “Piece of Eight,” and when they said something cost “two bits,” they meant it cost a quarter of a dollar".

The Piece of Eight was made famous in pirate folklore when Robert Louis Stevenson published his famous novel, Treasure Island."

 

[Fat]

I’m needing a chalk board to keep up AARC. You ARE the MAN. I have often heard that 2 bits but that is jeopardy training info right there. How did or why is there a half dime instead of a nickel? A piece of 8 kinda works out to be metric when I do the math.

 

[ARC]

I will add... NOW... somehow... these have taken on a whole new name... and I noticed this particularly with not only metal detectorists on this site... but everywhere metal detecting.

And that term / name is now somehow... "cut".... don't know why... but it works and people know this and what you are talking about when it is said... even I call em that now.

So now people call em... "cut reale". :/ so be it... it is ... what it is... right

heh

 

[ARC]

I’m needing a chalk board to keep up AARC. You ARE the MAN. I have often heard that 2 bits but that is jeopardy training info right there. How did or why is there a half dime instead of a nickel? A piece of 8 kinda works out to be metric when I do the math.

Don't know about that...


You might need Rum more than a chalkboard to deal with me. :P

 

[ARC]

And even further... now you might need a chalkboard.... heh

I see many "bits" ... AKA "cut pieces" mis-identified... but don't say anything.

Many of these are not "bits of eight"... but are "bits of escudos"... or bits of a "doubloon".

Everyone forgets about the Doubloon.

 

[ARC]

Also forgotten are the following....

"cautorillo"... "Duro Peso Dollar"... "Escudito"... "Escudo"... "Pistole (doubloon)" ... "Onza Doubloon". :P

 

[Mackaydon]

Cru, in fact it IS a piece of eight (assuming it is authentic). If the coin is cut, it is cut into what are called 'bits'.
Actually, the British called the Spanish dollar a Piece of Eight (which consists of 8 bits.)
Here on this side of the pond, we old folks might still call a US quarter--'two bits'.
Don.....
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[Red-Coat]

What has feathers and goes: "pieces of seven, pieces of seven"?

A parity error.

My pet Polly has sadly just died from obesity. I can tell you, that's a weight off my shoulders.

Beautiful plumage, the Norwegian Blue.

 

[Doubter in MD]

What has feathers and goes: "pieces of seven, pieces of seven"?

A parity error.

My pet Polly has sadly just died from obesity. I can tell you, that's a weight off my shoulders.

Beautiful plumage, the Norwegian Blue.

You sure you didn't just stun him, just as he was wakin' up!? Maybe he's just stunned. Norwegian Blues stun easily, major.

 

[ARC]

What has feathers and goes: "pieces of seven, pieces of seven"?

A parity error.

My pet Polly has sadly just died from obesity. I can tell you, that's a weight off my shoulders.

Beautiful plumage, the Norwegian Blue.

"The bar silver and the arms still lie, for all that I know, where Flint buried them; and certainly they shall lie there for me. Oxen and wain-ropes would not bring me back again to that accursed island; and the worst dreams that ever I have are when I hear the surf booming about its coasts or start upright in bed with the sharp voice of Captain Flint still ringing in my ears: "Pieces of eight! Pieces of eight!"

(The final paragraph from RLS, Treasure Island. For the lubbers out there, the sharp voice of Captain Flint was that of Long John Silver's parrot.)

 

[Tommybuckets]

Yup thats the whole eight no pieces there unless you are a whiz with crazy glue! A scale and calipers would tell you if its the real(e) deal. Underweight and correct thickness and size = fake, oversize n correct weight would be weird n fake, undersize and underweight I'd go real since they do shed a bit of metal in the ground. I've found them leached with rust from touching iron in the ground. Anywhere from black, orange or fresh shiny silver is how I've dug them. I'm no expert but I've got a few in the collection.

 

[Fat]

Hahaa red coat, good one. I thought the pirate yelled at parrot ah shut up and the parrot said mine too must be the salt water....

 

[Bramblefind]

There is a good book written about the contemporary counterfeit 8 reales. I looked at my copy and did not see one listed that looked to be a match to this one - there are many varieties though. Is the date 1807?

This is the book:

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/counterfeit-portrait-eight-reales-robert-gurney/1120311973

 

[Blkcloud]

What is the correct measurements and weight? I’m a machinist, do I can probably get a good measurement of it.. ��

 

[Blkcloud]

Yes. 1807