Palm Coast Area - Need partner for Fort Hunt

[JackInFlorida]

Hey everyone,

Anyone in the area of Palm Coast / Daytona / St. Augustine want to hunt a Fort I found on public lands?

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,118524.0.html

I would like to go this weekend or next, Saturday or Sunday or both. I just don't want to go alone, if something happens in the woods it would be safer with two or more. As you can see by the link, I have been there, but only once. I would like to go back before someone decides that the public land would be better suited for a parking lot. They are building HUNDREDS of homes near here, so I expect this site to be destroyed one way or another in the next year or two.

PM me with your e-mail address if you are interested. There is a small hike to get to the site, but only about 1/4 to 1/2 mile or so. Please don't contact me if you just want to know where the site is.

Thanks, Jack

 

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[Harley]

Hi, I live in Palm Coast myself. I don't get out as much as I'd like too, but get back to me. I'd love to get back into detecting.

 

[JackInFlorida]

Hi Harley,

I hunt every weekend, not much during the week with it getting dark before I get home. I have been wandering all around Matanzas area lately to find some good spots. Ponce Inlet too.

Do you like searching beach areas? Or do you prefer parks and stuff?

Jack

 

[Harley]

Hi Jack,
I only use Harley as a sign on name and because I ride one.
My name is Steve and I'm in Pine Lakes. I detected years ago when I lived in Jersey. Since moving to Florida in 93 I've done very little detecting. Now is that stupid or what? I have two Fisher detectors, a 1280X, and a CZ-5.
I really don't care if it's the beach or inland. I'd just love to get back into detecting.
Steve

 

[graybar-hotel]

Hi Jack,

I hope you find everything you are looking for and more.
I was born and raised in St. Aug. and my family goes back to some of the first settlers.
I have personal pictures of Davis Shores right after the dredge and before the Bridge of Lions, which was a rail bridge.

I know all the areas from Sr 207 to Sr 16 south to the "little" inlet and all the way up Salt Run.

If you have any questions, I would be glad to give any insight from a few of us Townies.

Graybar-hotel

 

[vulcan007]

Ahoy mateys!

where is the booty? post pics of yer finds...

where is this castle?

V

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Find anything?

 

[JackInFlorida]

Of course, the government agency that I believe manages the land did not return my call. I have been so busy at work that I have not followed up.

When I found the agency, their policy is no digging on their land. So . . . . I don't have high hopes. I put a reminder in my calendar for tomorrow, hopefully I will have some time to call them.

Jack

 

[JackInFlorida]

I finally spoke to someone about he property where the fort is located. They will not allow any removal of items at all.

Not really wanting to have my MD, car and anything else confiscated, I will be looking for other sites.

Jack

 

[Sapper23]

Jack,



Sorry to hear about your site, you and Ivan, and many others in the same boat .
but what I have read threw out this forum, and other forums: FL. rather leave are history dissolving away in the ground, and inlets, ocean's. along with Ivan, I have a site near his site. Can't touch it, because of two words.

Good luck next time.

Sapper

 

[DiggingFl]

I don't know but Fl must be the worst state for buying up any spot of land that has some history to it. If its on a river and not private land you can bet the stat has it. I track down countless sites only to find out when I git there the state has bought it up. Private land is the only real chance there is to find old coins and relics. Last year me and a few others hunted a vacant lot that was being cleard next to Fort Fanning. (Fanning Springs) . Of course some guy shows up says the county and state had just purchased the land and there was no MDing allowed that they didn't what any artifacts removed. Now he's telling me this wile were standing a a drainage ditch three feet deep, thirty feet wide and hundred feet long. That had just been dug rigtht through the middle of this lot. I said you don't think you removed any artifacts when you dug this ditch do you? Witch politicion used that for fill in his yard I wonder. . I could understand if one of the university's or the state was trying to recover and save the stuff but how is it better to leave it rotting in the ground then to let it be recovered buy us. But thats the way it is and it not likley to change so come up with a aproch that will get you on pivate land.

 

[JP]

"Now he's telling me this while were standing a a drainage ditch three feet deep, thirty feet wide and hundred feet long. That had just been dug Right through the middle of this lot. I said you don't think you removed any artifacts when you dug this ditch do you?"


That reminds me of what a professor of archaeology at the University of South Florida told me a few years ago, he would rather see a site destroyed and the fill buried in a dump than see one person pick up one "artifact" for their collection. He was telling me this while showing us "his collection for scientific study" that he would bring from his home. That destroyed a lot of the respect I used to have for archaeologists. On the same topic, he also talked about how they would destroy many artifacts to get to a level that they wanted to study. That every thing found getting to that level of study was thrown out because it was not recorded in context.

But remember they don't destroy history, they are preserving it for future generations....cough cough cough.

 

[Sapper23]

That reminds me of what a professor of archaeology at the University of South Florida told me a few years ago, he would rather see a site destroyed and the fill buried in a dump than see one person pick up one "artifact" for their collection


JP.

your right on. The course's I took, a long time ago. the Professor said the same thing!
that saying, must be in the learning plan: I have a 1600's shipwreck site in NE Fl. on the ocean side: I believe Ivan site is inside the inlet, because of two words: " aquatic preserve " The state rather let are history go then to save it! My last course I took: you even mention the word " Metal Detecting " your marked as a PIRATE.
I rather be called a pirate, at least I'm saving history: I Do Not like saying this but,
trying to do the right thing, can be the wrong way to go. it's so crazy how people act when you start finding history, and treasure. The only course of action anyone can take : you say nothing to anyone what you find!

Keep Detecting,
Sapper