P & R railroad cuff button can someone put a date on it ?

[Mike in Berks]

P & R railroad cuff button can someone put a date on it ?

i found this button tonight at a circa 1850's house P & R Pennsylvania & Reading RR
cuff button ? ? only 16mm wide the back is in bad shape i can see Horstmann Philida
unfortunately, i can't see if there is a WH before Horstmann there is enough space for it
though can anyone date this button by the "style" in the front ? instead of relying on the
backmark i'm hoping it's 1820 - 1850 instead of 1893 - 1935 either way it's my
1st RR button thanks for looking

 

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[mrs.oroblanco]

Re: P & R rairoad cuff button can someone put a date on it ?

Actually, it looks like a infantry coat button (confederate).

http://www.virginiarelics.com/PC1206 002.jpg

Cool find, whatever it is!

B

 

[Monty]

Re: P & R rairoad cuff button can someone put a date on it ?

Mike there is a society for preserving the history of the Reading Railroad that has a museum. They may be able to research the info you want. www.readingrailroad.com Monty

 

[BuckleBoy]

Re: P & R rairoad cuff button can someone put a date on it ?

I am not finding it in Alberts--Railway buttons are not listed there.

It is NOT a military button--that much is certain.







Sounds like the resource you need is Van Court's Transportation Uniform Buttons. (But I don't own a copy of it.)


Does anyone else have a copy?




-Buckles

 

[Don in SJ]

Re: P & R rairoad cuff button can someone put a date on it ?

Have not found the button, but sorry, by the backmark it appears to be 1893 and on style of lettering used by Horstmann.

For information on trains, I previously have used the contact from Don's Depot website. He has answered my inquiries in the past.

http://donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/index.htm

Don

 

[Mike in Berks]

Re: P & R rairoad cuff button can someone put a date on it ?

Mike there is a society for preserving the history of the Reading Railroad that has a museum. They may be able to research the info you want. www.readingrailroad.com Monty

Thanks for the reply and the link Monty

I am not finding it in Alberts--Railway buttons are not listed there.

It is NOT a military button--that much is certain.







Sounds like the resource you need is Van Court's Transportation Uniform Buttons. (But I don't own a copy of it.)


Does anyone else have a copy?




-Buckles

Thanks for the reply BuckleBoy

Have not found the button, but sorry, by the backmark it appears to be 1893 and on style of lettering used by Horstmann.

For information on trains, I previously have used the contact from Don's Depot website. He has answered my inquiries in the past.

http://donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/index.htm

Don

thanks for the reply and the link Don
i really should'nt have posted last night i was EXCITED and INPATIENT i used a tooth pic before i
posted hoping for an early RR button i cleaned it up this morning with hot peroxide and distilled
water and what i thought was Hostmann Philida turned out to be Horstmann Philadelphia which
dates it to 1893 - 1935 there are 2 railroads down the street from where i found it Reading Railroad
and Pennsylvania & Reading railroad i was goin to "delete" the post this morning because i had all
the info i needed after i cleaned it it sure feels good to see all the replys and people trying to help
me out with information on here i'll try to control myself > more < next time










Sounds like the resource you need is Van Court's Transportation Uniform Buttons. (But I don't own a copy of it.)


Does anyone else have a copy?




-Buckles
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[PBK]

Re: P & R railroad cuff button can someone put a date on it ?

Nice find!

Although Van Court's Transportation Uniform Buttons, Vol. I - Railroad does not cite a date for the variety with the Horstmann backmark that you describe, other backmarks for buttons of the same design— cataloged as "8/25, P & R, ampersand larger than letters"— range from 1872 to 1892.

 

[Mike in Berks]

Re: P & R railroad cuff button can someone put a date on it ?

Nice find!

Although Van Court's Transportation Uniform Buttons, Vol. I - Railroad does not cite a date for the variety with the Horstmann backmark that you describe, other backmarks for buttons of the same design— cataloged as "8/25, P & R, ampersand larger than letters"— range from 1872 to 1892.

Thanks PBK
that's the date range i was hoping for and i know you do have the sources and the knowledge
but, there is a web site i use unfortunately, i can't type it in because it has an icon i don't have
on my keyboard it's titled " Button Back Marks " WH Horstmann Phila date range 1820 - 1850
and it says Horstmann Philadelphia 1893 - 1935 and by cleaning it more i see there isn't
a WH UNLESS...... some of the older styles were made in 1893 too ? i'll take your word for it
though thanks much