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[Samuel23]

Found this on the Huron River while out fishing. I noticed it sticking out half buried and dug it out. Looks hand carved, possibly Indian artifact?

 

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[stefen]

Hmmmmmm

 

[surf]

Howdy Samuel,

Welcome to this place & thanks for the frontal views of your owl. I don't believe you mentioned it's size, nor capacity. What's the base look like?

I'm getting a very 20th Century vibe from it.

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[Back-of-the-boat]

My Mom had 1 exactly like that it is just a modern little planter for flowers sorry not old.

 

[Jeanne]

What's it made of?

 

[Samuel23]

It's definitely not modern, there are tool marks where the inside was carved out very unevenly and there are no houses up river from where I found it, just miles of river and a metro park

 

[surf]

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/136849-please-read-before-posting-items-what.html

Hey Samuel,

This might be an appropriate moment to post more / better photos that illustrate it's features...

I seem to remember the Huron being about 130 miles long through Michigan & Ohio.

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

pottery with flat bottoms are normally NOT native American pieces...at least not pre contact...

 

[Samuel23]

It's made of wood

 

[unclemac]

...don't get me wrong but I do not believe that the native peoples in the area this would have come from have much of a wood carving tradition.

 

[damiani1]

Could you post some more pictures (including the inside) and put something like a nestle water bottle next to it for proportion. Thanks


As you also said it was wood so it could have been knocked off of someones dock and then it took a trip and got washed up on the shore.

 

[stefen]

Unfortunately, when asking to T-Net Members to ID an item, its best not to name the suggested categories...

Doing so, presupposes what it could be and leaves openings for arguements between the poster and those reviewing the posted item...

In fact, it could easily be an oriental import and have nothing to do with being a Native American relic...

Need pics of outside perimeter, bottom and inside....need to see tool carving evidence more clearly...

Also need dimensions such as height, width, capacity (8 oz, etc)

Weight and water displacement may point to wood options...

Worm holes?

Micro pics of grain...open, closed, etc

 

[Samuel23]

2.13 oz. 3 inches tall 2.5 wide

 

[unclemac]

someone put a lot of time into this...

 

[SCDigginWithAK]

I have also seen these and are modern era. At the latest 20th century. The best id say is 1930s-2013. ID say 1970s-2013

 

[SCDigginWithAK]

It's definitely not modern, there are tool marks where the inside was carved out very unevenly and there are no houses up river from where I found it, just miles of river and a metro park

If it is wooden like you said, wood floats! It may have floated down the river. And just because its uneven doesnt really mean anything. Maybe somebody started on it and gave up to it broke and gave up. So they threw it in the river. I'm just saying. M not trying to be negative but I'm rather giving my opinion.

 

[surf]

Unless I miss my guess, those appear to be tooling marks from a saw and/or file. I would think that would leave out Native People as maker, unless done rather recently. I do not know how long a carved wooden object like this would survive in a wet aerobic environment. I cannot imagine it would last 100 years unless Lignum Vitae, or all heart Redwood, and it resembles neither.

Lignum Vitae 45 Bowling Ball Rack​

 

[damiani1]

Unless I miss my guess, those appear to be tooling marks from a saw and/or file. I would think that would leave out Native People as maker, unless done rather recently. I do not know how long a carved wooden object like this would survive in a wet aerobic environment. I cannot imagine it would last 100 years unless Lignum Vitae, or all heart Redwood, and it resembles neither.

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Lignum Vitae 45 Bowling Ball Rack​

Second the file marks, looks exactly like that in my eyes.

 

[stefen]

Got me stumped (pardon the pun)...

Sometimes one needs to touch, taste, smell, toss in the air, hold up to a light, or whatever, just to get a feeling of what it is...

Still in the hummmmmmmmmmmmm stage

 

[Samuel23]

Ok so your right probably not an Indian artifact, I just like to speculate. Nevertheless I like it and it feels very unique. Thanks for looking