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The following is one small point that makes me consider Thomas Beale to have been a real acquaintance of Robert Morriss.

"Such a man was Thomas J. Beale, as he appeared in 1820, and in his subsequent visit to my house. He registered simply from Virginia, but I am of the impression he was from some western portion of the State. Curiously enough, he never adverted to his family or to his antecedents, nor did I question him concerning them, as I would have done had I dreamed of the interest that in the future would attach to his name..."

Why did Robert Morriss think That Beale was from some western portion of the state of Virginia? Considering Morriss' description of Beale, we might think his view of Beale was that of a mountain man, which is certainly representative of the western portion of Virginia. On further review, however, the real reason seems to be clear.
When Morriss gives his impression as to where Beale was from, he references Beale's family in the same paragraph, which suggests that family was the reason for said impression. Beale's two companions went farther east, to near Richmond, to visit their families, from whom they had been absent a long time, but Beale stayed with Morriss the whole time, and never are we told anything of Beale visiting family, having been away for more than two and a half years. It would make sense then for Morriss to have considered the probability of Beale having already visited his family, somewhere west of Lynchburg, though in the state of Virginia, as he registered.

This, to me, doesn't seem devised by a writer of fiction, as it is somewhat hidden in the passage. I had read the story multiple times before recognizing the connection. If I were writing this as a work of fiction, I would make sure that this connection was clear on first glance, and not something that has to be gleaned from years of research and thought. I know there are those who will say that the above is obvious, but the fact remains that neither they, nor I, had seen it until now. This, in my opinion, does lend some credence to the truth of the Beale story.

The above is not to show where Beale was from, but rather to show Morriss' reason for thinking Beale to be from the Western part of Virginia, and linking it to his family as the reason he thought so. This doesn't seem like fiction to me.
 

2 ppl WERE from the WESTERN portion of the state (Virginia); both senior & junior were from FINCASTLE, Virginia. Check it out...
 

2 ppl WERE from the WESTERN portion of the state (Virginia); both senior & junior were from FINCASTLE, Virginia. Check it out...

Yeah, I know. But that's not the main point of the post. I think Morriss really said those things. It just don't sound like a made up story.
 

One larger point is that you assume all the events in the Beale Papers actually happened outside of the job print pamphlet.
 

One larger point is that you assume all the events in the Beale Papers actually happened outside of the job print pamphlet.

You only assume that I assume ALL the events in the Beale Papers actually happened. ALL can be a big word. I don't know if it all happened or not, so I can't say it did, and I can't say it didn't. The post above is a hint to it being real, in my opinion.
 

As Franklin has mentioned many times, his research concerning a BEALE PARTY EXPEDITION, while there are records of other expeditions in the Spanish Territory, and the Spanish kept great records of who came and went in their territory, sometimes holding American trespassers prisoner, there is NO record of a BEALE PARTY EXPEDITION.
Now if this perilous adventure never occurred, that means no gold or silver were discovered and transported to Bedford county, which means there was no real purpose for Morris to tell this tale to the unnamed author who allegedly gave the finished manuscript to Ward for the sole purpose of securing copyright and publishing as agent.
PS: By your various posts, you do seem to hint in your to assume that some portion of the Beale story is real.
 

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As Franklin has mentioned many times, his research concerning a BEALE PARTY EXPEDITION, while there are records of other expeditions in the Spanish Territory, and the Spanish kept great records of who came and went in their territory, sometimes holding American trespassers prisoner, there is NO record of a BEALE PARTY EXPEDITION.
Now if this perilous adventure never occurred, that means no gold or silver were discovered and transported to Bedford county, which means there was no real purpose for Morris to tell this tale to the unnamed author who allegedly gave the finished manuscript to Ward for the sole purpose of securing copyright and publishing as agent.
PS: By your various posts, you do seem to hint in your to assume that some portion of the Beale story is real.

You misunderstand a lot. Maybe it's age related, I don't know.
 

Wow! Another ageist insult.
As Treasure_Hunter noted on another thread, it is time to end it.


Armchair Argument ECS

The mystery is over and fact is fact.....so I guess the only way to "end it" is to call your bluff.

And I raise you tenfold
 

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