One of my best finds

[Frisian prospector]

Well i am new here and to get to know the searchers its probably the best way to show some finds.

This coin i found 3 months ago and its a ducat of Transylvania, the land of Dracula.

As you can see it is in a very good shape and has the exact weigt of 3.5 grams.
That means it has still its original weight.
The strange thing do it has eight corners and had me dazzled for a while untill the experts told me it was really a coin.
I have been searching for allmost 3 years now and this is my first gold coin.

I live in The Netherlands and my question was: How did this coin end up here??
Well thats because people in the early days also could pay with gold or silver, the weight i mean.

Hope youll enjoy watching!

Greatings from The Netherlands!

 

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[Gypsy Heart]

Excellent find ! For your first coin,that is definitely the way to do it. Some of my family were from Transylvania....Maybe they lost it!

 

[Gypsy Heart]

I know nothing about ducats ...what is the denomination....I know that one was struck for the Emporere Leoplold on a hundred ducat. Is this one?

 

[Frisian prospector]

Yes this is 1 ducat becaus of the weight .
Correct me if i am wrong but 1 ducat is 3.5 gram 2 ducats is 7 gram etc.
The weigt in gold determend its value.

Determination of the coin: ducat of Leopold I ruler of Transylvania
Made in the year 1699.
Mintplace KV means Kolosvar
Gold 0.986
LEOPOLD D.(ei)G.(ratia)R.(omanorum)S.(emper)A.(ugustus)G.(ermania)H.(ungaria)B.(ohemia)R.(ex)

Also in Krause KM#522

 

[TreasureGrabber]

really great find.
It should be quite thin coin is not it?

 

[JW]

Oooooooh Ahhhhhhhh

Purdy coin, 0.125 ounces of gold is always good, 1699 even better!!!!!

Dracula, sorry Transylvania, coolness needle is pegged!
Did you find it in town or in the woods?
Quite an awesome find, congrats!

 

[Frisian prospector]

This coin is indeed very thin and as you can see it is very slightly bended.
This coin was found in the midle of knowwhere on farmers land.
I knew there used to be a small road till 200 years ago.
The funny thing was i just bought another detector and was searching just to get to know that new detector

Glad i bought that Lobo

 

[TreasureGrabber]

What was depth where you found the coin?

 

[Frisian prospector]

The depth was so around 4 or 5 inches and the year before i also found a great item at that same spot.
This is also a reasonable rare find.
This item was used for cleaning that old clay-pipes.
It is made of silver.

 

[Trez]

Superb finds..........Congrat's
The item on the bottom...looks more like a personal grooming kit with pipe cleaner attachments...I see an ear wax spoon, nail scraper...

Again, Congrats

Trez

 

[SilverDreams]

WOW!

 

[Ole Mole]

Superb finds..........Congrat's
The item on the bottom...looks more like a personal grooming kit with pipe cleaner attachments...I see an ear wax spoon, nail scraper...

Again, Congrats

Trez

You forgot the little spoon to snort snuff

Great finds
HH

 

[jeremiah212]

u sure that the original coin shape?...it looks clipped, if its clipped how can it still be its original wieght?

 

[Frisian prospector]

Well it looks that way but its really hammered on an octagonal peace of gold

At first i also thought it was clipped because of the shape .
I placed an image of this coin on another forum and this man told me that this was original.
I also mailed to the Austrian mint and they also told me this was really an original coin.

Krause Mishler nr= KM#522.

 

[jeremiah212]

for sure thats one heck of a nice find!

 

[packerbacker]

They are both nice finds Frisian. There's more out there so why are you sitting there reading this?

 

[IrishCharlieM]

Beautiful Finds....

 

[Colin the cop]

Beutifull coin!
Well found and thanks for sharing it with us all.

Colin

 

[mxtswinger]

Superb! Now go get the rest of them. Many Congrats.

 

[lordmarcovan]

These were clipped by the mint, prior to being struck. (As opposed to the sort of clipping which was practiced dishonestly by people who wanted to steal gold or silver, a little shaving at a time, reducing the coin's weight.)

Square, hexagonal, and octagonal coins like this are often referred to as "klippes".

Leopold got his nickname of "Leopold the Hogmouth" from his unusual mandibular prognathism, a hereditary deformity shared by many Hapsburg rulers. He sure had a strange lower jaw, as visible on his coins! He must've been quite ugly in person. But he definitely makes for an interesting historical character.

Even a silver coin of Leopold the Hogmouth would count as a great find in my book. But to find a gold ducat, and a klippe, at that, well... that's truly remarkable!


Leopold "the Hogmouth" and "The Habsburg Jaw":

http://www.antiquesatoz.com/habsburg/habsburg-jaw.htm