olive jar rim marking I.d. Help

[GatorBoy]

this appears to be a late style rim found in saint lucie county florida. any info on the marking would be great

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[Chagy]

Hi, could you please provide a bit more info so that we can help you. Is this a beach find or diving find? Any other artifacts found in the same or near by area?

 

[Chagy]

Are there any marks on the back of the porcelain plate? By the pattern of the design and how busy it is I want to say its from the Kangxi period.

 

[GatorBoy]

here are a few more items from the same site

 

[GatorBoy]

I was only able to find a marking on 1 piece of porcelain. . here are a few more items looks like part of an M below the stamp

 

[GatorBoy]

in the last pictures I posted there is what looks like a lead bail seal. Omd on it looks like mexican assayer and maker mark

 

[GatorBoy]

Hey chagy..this is the back of the black and white porcelain plate

 

[GatorBoy]

 

[Chagy]

working on it

 

[GatorBoy]

Thank you very much. Im real excited about this. It has taken me years following a hunch and putting together clues.

 

[GatorBoy]

Have yet to bring a metal detector to site. I sort of belive I would miss a portion of the story by going straight for metal.

 

[whydahdiver]

Most of the items I see are mid 19th century. what you are calling porcelain seems to be transfer printed white ware. Can you post some close ups of the bottle parts and the other items on the table?

 

[GatorBoy]

I will get back to you later I'm at work

 

[elle]

Perhaps you have meandered onto some early pioneer homesteads, unless your objects are from an ocean wreck, as you are posting in the “shipwreck section.”
I do know one of the first groups of European settlers took up land about 3.5 miles south of Fort Pierce in 1843, and named the community, Susanna. Based on the spelling of this name, it seems these people came from Scotland, England, or Ireland. Years later, the pioneers abruptly abandoned their homes and ran to St. Augustine from fear of local Indian rebellions.
Check the St. Lucie Historical Society for more information.

 

[GatorBoy]

your good... did that already

 

[divermark]

Looks like numerous wrecks to me:

Start here for the makers mark, great resource, note the different countries of origin down the right:

Pottery & Porcelain Marks - Great Britain - Pg. 18 of 38

I've started you at GB as I think one of the plates is transferware late 1800, early 1900

Looks like the type of finds on a rock somewhere, that likes catching ships out

Good luck

 

[GatorBoy]

thank you very much for that. I just got home from work. I will post a few more items that seem relevant

 

[GatorBoy]

Thank you for your help

 

[elle]

You have a whiteware plate that became popular around 1830, a button in your photo was predominant after 1837 (A Guide to Artifacts of Colonial America by Ivor Noël Hume), and another of your objects was a flow blue transfer-print, a technique that began in 1844. The bottle is typical of mid-19th century. I may be wrong, but clues indicate the site is from the mid-1800s. I am also assuming this is a landsite. Your county is known for its early military activity. If you lack soldier artifacts, a homestead is logical. Maybe a well is nearby containing more bottles…with clues?
I only say that because whiteware is very hard to date.

 

[GatorBoy]

I believe you maybe right on the money. I did recover flint