Old Texas Military Button?

[BerntOut]

Dug this at late 1860's farm house at 4".
Can anyone ID this for me? With my limited experience searching (google), I found Texas Star buttons but nothing like this one. It appears to be very old.

 

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[CRUSADER]

Looks more like an insignia (capbadge or shoulder/lapell badge)

 

[DCMatt]

As CRUSADER said, hat badge.

DCMatt

 

[kuger]

Great I.D!May I ask,what time frame,provenance,are we talking?

 

[BerntOut]

Great I.D!May I ask,what time frame,provenance,are we talking?

I'd like to know more to Kuger. Like how in the heck did a Texas Military Hat Badge end up in California?

Thank you for the ID. I am still searching the internet and have not found it yet! Might you have a link?
Thanks again for your assistance.

 

[LuckOfTheIrish]

This type of hat insignia was used prior to and throughout the Civil War era (1861-1865) and is commonly associated with the dress uniform of a Texan Infantry Officer. As for how it might have ended up in California, my best guess would have to be due to the fact that the miners in the Gold Rush years often brought hat, belts with their respective buckles and even possibly their uniforms from their military days when travelling westward. The only issue with this piece is that there are companies that make replicas that are identical to this piece today... so unless you are hunting near a reenactment site I'd have to say this piece is period and a great find. Congrats!

LuckOfTheIrish

 

[kuger]

This type of hat insignia was used prior to and throughout the Civil War era (1861-1865) and is commonly associated with the dress uniform of a Texan Infantry Officer. As for how it might have ended up in California, my best guess would have to be due to the fact that the miners in the Gold Rush years often brought hat, belts with their respective buckles and even possibly their uniforms from their military days when travelling westward. The only issue with this piece is that there are companies that make replicas that are identical to this piece today... so unless you are hunting near a reenactment site I'd have to say this piece is period and a great find. Congrats!

LuckOfTheIrish

Thanks!Great info,however,are you stating,its use from 1861-1865,and "The Gold Rush",years,which was essentially over by the dates posted I think I know what you are saying as no doubt veterans of many wars did indeed seek there fortune,in the fields of Calif,but the actual Gold Rush was over by the later 1850's

 

[CRUSADER]

My gut makes me think its not 1860s.

 

[LuckOfTheIrish]

This type of hat insignia was used prior to and throughout the Civil War era (1861-1865) and is commonly associated with the dress uniform of a Texan Infantry Officer. As for how it might have ended up in California, my best guess would have to be due to the fact that the miners in the Gold Rush years often brought hat, belts with their respective buckles and even possibly their uniforms from their military days when travelling westward. The only issue with this piece is that there are companies that make replicas that are identical to this piece today... so unless you are hunting near a reenactment site I'd have to say this piece is period and a great find. Congrats!

LuckOfTheIrish

Thanks!Great info,however,are you stating,its use from 1861-1865,and "The Gold Rush",years,which was essentially over by the dates posted I think I know what you are saying as no doubt veterans of many wars did indeed seek there fortune,in the fields of Calif,but the actual Gold Rush was over by the later 1850's

Glad I could help and yeah I understand, thats why I had said prior to and throughout the Civil War. The origin of this piece is actually a militia piece originating prior to the Civil War and Gold Rush making that time period work. The reason I had mentioned Civil War was due to the fact that uniforms in the Confederate states often comprised of earlier state militia uniforms, making that piece a possible find in a Civil War site. But as you had mentioned it was likely lost before the Civil War and during the Gold Rush instead. Thanks and I hope this clarified that as it might have been slightly confusing beforehand

LuckOfTheIrish

 

[kuger]

This type of hat insignia was used prior to and throughout the Civil War era (1861-1865) and is commonly associated with the dress uniform of a Texan Infantry Officer. As for how it might have ended up in California, my best guess would have to be due to the fact that the miners in the Gold Rush years often brought hat, belts with their respective buckles and even possibly their uniforms from their military days when travelling westward. The only issue with this piece is that there are companies that make replicas that are identical to this piece today... so unless you are hunting near a reenactment site I'd have to say this piece is period and a great find. Congrats!

LuckOfTheIrish

Gotcha,great id!!

Thanks!Great info,however,are you stating,its use from 1861-1865,and "The Gold Rush",years,which was essentially over by the dates posted I think I know what you are saying as no doubt veterans of many wars did indeed seek there fortune,in the fields of Calif,but the actual Gold Rush was over by the later 1850's

Glad I could help and yeah I understand, thats why I had said prior to and throughout the Civil War. The origin of this piece is actually a militia piece originating prior to the Civil War and Gold Rush making that time period work. The reason I had mentioned Civil War was due to the fact that uniforms in the Confederate states often comprised of earlier state militia uniforms, making that piece a possible find in a Civil War site. But as you had mentioned it was likely lost before the Civil War and during the Gold Rush instead. Thanks and I hope this clarified that as it might have been slightly confusing beforehand

LuckOfTheIrish

 

[CRUSADER]

This type of hat insignia was used prior to and throughout the Civil War era (1861-1865) and is commonly associated with the dress uniform of a Texan Infantry Officer. As for how it might have ended up in California, my best guess would have to be due to the fact that the miners in the Gold Rush years often brought hat, belts with their respective buckles and even possibly their uniforms from their military days when travelling westward. The only issue with this piece is that there are companies that make replicas that are identical to this piece today... so unless you are hunting near a reenactment site I'd have to say this piece is period and a great find. Congrats!

LuckOfTheIrish

Thanks!Great info,however,are you stating,its use from 1861-1865,and "The Gold Rush",years,which was essentially over by the dates posted I think I know what you are saying as no doubt veterans of many wars did indeed seek there fortune,in the fields of Calif,but the actual Gold Rush was over by the later 1850's

Glad I could help and yeah I understand, thats why I had said prior to and throughout the Civil War. The origin of this piece is actually a militia piece originating prior to the Civil War and Gold Rush making that time period work. The reason I had mentioned Civil War was due to the fact that uniforms in the Confederate states often comprised of earlier state militia uniforms, making that piece a possible find in a Civil War site. But as you had mentioned it was likely lost before the Civil War and during the Gold Rush instead. Thanks and I hope this clarified that as it might have been slightly confusing beforehand

LuckOfTheIrish

I disagree that this is anything younger than 1900. What reference are you using?