Old Rifle? Brass Help

[cambria09]

Hello All. I found this last night at a 1900's farm house site.

It looks like an old rifle round to me but there is no engraving on the primer end to go by. It is brass, what is left is about 1.5-IN long, and the OD of the bore is about 0.5-IN.

Please let me know if you know the ammo type and age of this find. Many thanks and HHTA. C9

 

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[Citiboy289]

45.70 ?

 

[EccentricInTexas]

My guess would be its a .50-70. It could be a .45-70 To tell we would need more accurate measurements.

 

[BosnMate]

45.70 ?

probably

 

[BosnMate]

I've dug eaten up black powder cartridges like this one. The corrosive salts in the black powder residue cause the metal to
sort of rot. Early cartridges were copper, but it doesn't mean the brass didn't get eaten up, because it does a number on
that also. The outside diameter of the case if 45-70 would be .408 and the diameter of the base would be .608. I have a
.45-70 cartridge with a base like yours without a head stamp, so I know yours could be a 45-70, but with the length decayed
away the only way you can know for sure is to measure it with something more accurate than a ruler.

 

[Citiboy289]

When the army went to Kraig rifles , the Trapdoor Springfields were purchased by Bannerman who had a Huge surplus business in NY , He then would take off hand guards or shorten the barrels and sell them off the civilians AT LOW PRICES for sporting, After the Kraig and Winchesters the Desire for a single shot rifle really went by the way side , Bet they went for cheap