Old pipe and old tools. Help on date

[Detect History]

Had a couple of friends send me these pics. Please help with dating. I believe late 1700s-1850s but am no expert.

Thanks

 

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[pa plateau hiker]

The tool might be a pike.

 

[wheatfinder13]

That is an AWESOME pipe!

 

[Ruchman]

Metal object looks like a pickaroon

 

[kevin hoffman]

really cool pipe,meersham??

 

[Detect History]

Thanks so much for the ID on the pickaroon. How old is that crazy pipe?!

 

[Detect History]

They say it likely is meerschaum, yes.

 

[blugotti1]

nice finds!! love the pipe!!

 

[CMDiamonddawg]

Thanks so much for the ID on the pickaroon. How old is that crazy pipe?!

Nice digs DH , early 1800's on the pipe

 

[vpnavy]

Nice finds Detect History!

 

[wwwtimmcp]

I have a couple of those metal objects too.

 

[John_Deere]

The metal thing kinda looks like a pickaxe back or something, and that pipe is fancy as crap!

 

[Detect History]

Nice digs DH , early 1800's on the pipe

I wish I dug em. I ha e a couple of buddies that live in a map room and sleep in cellar holes. I'm trying to get them to join here. I told them "give the gang on treasure net 3 hours and you will have your answers". You guys never disappoint!

Maybe the "cellar dwellers" will join. They find amazing relics

 

[holeymoley]

Not a meerschaum pipe. Just an old ceramic. Notice the mold line and crude workmanship. It was ceramic slip poured into a mold. They made these by the hundreds of thousands. They gave these free with pouches of tobacco all the way into the 1900's. Guys typically just threw them away after they smoked the pouch and got a new one with the next pouch. No value to them. I find them all of the time in old privy's. On the better quality ceramic pipes they would smooth the mold lines and add detail after the slip was dried, before firing in the kiln. This particular design was common and there is no way way to verify the age as it was made for over 100 years through the 1900's. Conversation piece, nothing more.

 

[kuger]

Ceramic - tobacco pipe bowl - Museum Victoria

 

[dig kzoo]

How cool!

 

[surf]

...No value to them. I find them all of the time in old privy's. On the better quality ceramic pipes they would smooth the mold lines and add detail after the slip was dried, before firing in the kiln. This particular design was common and there is no way way to verify the age as it was made for over 100 years through the 1900's. Conversation piece, nothing more.

Uh, holeymoley,

Welcome to TNet. Your digging experience is far different than mine. If I understand you correctly; you're saying that these face pipes are common as, well... dirt.

Not in my experience, they're not. They are most uncommon. I've dug only 2 face pipes, compared to a couple hundred conventionally decorated kaolin pipes. What's your secret? I'm really looking forward to seeing some of the scads that you've been digging. No fair, if you live in Point Pleasant, or Pamplin.

Oh, one more thing; you might reanalyze your understanding of how clay pipes are made.

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