Old Iron Motor for Tony in SC

Old River

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A pic of that manufacturers plate will help us ID it. First glance looks like a hit and miss type.
 

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That is an unusual engine!! There is not an exact match in any of my books or logs. The closest I can find is a "Witte from the late 20's" but I really don't think so. It does look like a hit&miss, there were also throtle governed (fired every other stroke). The magneto is a Wico EK which came out in 1924. The solid flywheels (not spokes) were from the 30's on. It is not a marine engine, although looks like it may have been an anchor at one time ;D ;D. It is a farm engine. The strip of metal hanging on the side is the band for the Mag. It should have some numbers on it. If you can get anything off the tag It would help. I have seen worse restored. There were over three thousand patents issued for early engines. Only a few hundred actually went into production. Only a few dozen lasted 5 years. Tony
 

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Tony in SC said:
That is an unusual engine!! There is not an exact match in any of my books or logs. The closest I can find is a "Witte from the late 20's" but I really don't think so. It does look like a hit&miss, there were also throtle governed (fired every other stroke). The magneto is a Wico EK which came out in 1924. The solid flywheels (not spokes) were from the 30's on. It is not a marine engine, although looks like it may have been an anchor at one time ;D ;D. It is a farm engine. The strip of metal hanging on the side is the band for the Mag. It should have some numbers on it. If you can get anything off the tag It would help. I have seen worse restored. There were over three thousand patents issued for early engines. Only a few hundred actually went into production. Only a few dozen lasted 5 years. Tony
Would that also be called a one lung or lunger engine? And is the timing/firing based on the flywheel speed or load applied? :icon_thumright:
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Broken knee said:
Tony in SC said:
That is an unusual engine!! There is not an exact match in any of my books or logs. The closest I can find is a "Witte from the late 20's" but I really don't think so. It does look like a hit&miss, there were also throtle governed (fired every other stroke). The magneto is a Wico EK which came out in 1924. The solid flywheels (not spokes) were from the 30's on. It is not a marine engine, although looks like it may have been an anchor at one time ;D ;D. It is a farm engine. The strip of metal hanging on the side is the band for the Mag. It should have some numbers on it. If you can get anything off the tag It would help. I have seen worse restored. There were over three thousand patents issued for early engines. Only a few hundred actually went into production. Only a few dozen lasted 5 years. Tony
Would that also be called a one lung or lunger engine? And is the timing/firing based on the flywheel speed or load applied? :icon_thumright:
Broken Knee

Yes they are sometimes called one lungers. On the hit & miss engines a fly weight governor determines when it will fire. Under no load some will spin the flywheel 30 times or more before it fires. Under a load it will fire more often. Tony
 

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I know that the old man that owned this on had it rigged up to run a skiff with. Probably like I say a rig job. He would run his skiff up, and down the river, and then take the motor out, and hook it up to some kind of generaton, and run a light in his house with it. Yes it does have the belt pulley on it. Thanks for all the info, I will look at the tag on it to see if I can make it out. The old guy I got it from said it was an old Hit and Miss.
 

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Looks like an old one lunger to me, the name coming from the fact that it only had one piston. But that one piston was huge. Only saw one in action way back when I was a kid. If I remember right, the piston only came to high center and fired back down about once every second or so. They were an amazing piece of machinery.
 

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Just a thought, but it could have been a rig job for pulling up a type of Crab pot, or trap type item. Also like a boom lifter???
My Wife's Uncle is a Crab Potter in VA, and he rigged a similar type motor on his boat. :icon_scratch:
 

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Very interesting post replys. Thank guys for all the comments...
 

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Cool motor.

One lungers are still popular in the oil and gas industry and are used for pumping units and gas compressors. You can here em running for miles away.

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