Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS! - UPDATE*

incajoe

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May 17, 2007
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I have been doing some intense map research lately and have a list of homes that disappeared off of the local maps around the turn of the century. Today I decided to go check out a couple of them. This was a stretch of road about a half mile long that had been closed off and bypassed. I knew there were three houses on the road so armed with a make shift map I went in search of the houses. The first one was near the modern roadway and within sight of an existing house and although this was utility company property I decided not to chance being seen by the neighbors and continued further down the old road in search of the second house. I soon found it (nothing but a cellar hole left of any of these houses) and got to work. I searched for about an hour with no good finds. The place was just littered with iron. I decided to head to the third house which I also found quite easily. This one had less junk around it but also had no good signals. By this time I was getting pretty discouraged so I headed back out and on my way figured, what the heck I'll hit the first foundation. Well about 5 minutes into the hunt a truck pulls up and the driver asks me what I'm doing which I politely explained. He then informs me that I'm actually on his private property and the Utility company land started just behind the foundation. I apologized and told him I hadn't realized that and he said "no problem, help yourself". So I continued detecting and right away started getting good dig-able signals. Within 5 minutes I dug the 1844 Bank Of Montreal half penny. Then next was the 1823 large cent. I was really psyched about this one since it is my first large cent I have found in my two years of detecting. The condition is really lousy but at least I could get a date off of it. I spent a few more hours and found some clock/watch parts, a flat button with traces of gold, a purse closure which I had hoped would reveal some coins but no such luck. All in all a great day of detecting. I found it interesting that all the finds I made at this foundation were on one side of the house between the house and the old well. Nothing was found anywhere else on the site. Here's a bunch of pics.....

UPDATE:
Here is an article I found online that may back up the notion that this 1823 large cent is a counterfeit.

In the late 1850's one enterprising soul found, in a load of scrap steel bought from the mint, several old, rusted, broken, but usable dies. Use of the precious-metal dies would be counterfeiting - a capital offense. But the base-metal dies were intended for non-legal tender coins. One can't be charged with counterfeiting what isn't money. The half cent restrike of 1811 and the large cent restrikes of 1823 and "1804" come from this batch. They deceived few collectors but turned a profit anyway. The latter (1804) was an alteration of an 1803 cent die, since collectors recognize that 1803 cents are common but 1804 cents are not. Most of these dies were bought back by the Treasury Department in 1878. A hundred years later the 1823 dies were still out there someplace.
 

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Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

I LOVE those woods foundations!!!
Great finds. Just one Copper makes a good
hunt. Two is just SHWEEEET!!
 

Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

THAT IS A FINE COLLECTIOIN FOR ONE HUNT. :thumbsup:
 

Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

Nice haul on the goodies, and it was really nice of the landowner to let you to continue your hunt.
 

Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

topdog said:
Nice haul on the goodies, and it was really nice of the landowner to let you to continue your hunt.

Yes, it was. :thumbsup:

Fantastic finds, Joe!

Nana :)
 

Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

Your research paid off well for you, good job. Congrats on a nice hunt and the great finds inluding your first LC WTG :icon_thumleft:
Glenn
 

Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

Beautiful coins and great research paid off. Ironically I read a story once about those 3 houses. It seems the owners were brothers. The Piggs, I believe. You should have found some remnants of Straw at the first one, sticks at the second and bricks at the last one if it's the same ones. :tard: :icon_jokercolor: :tongue3: :thumbsup:
 

Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

looks like a nice day out wtg
 

Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

plehbah said:
Your Large Cent looks like a counterfeit to me.

The counterfeits are usually more interesting.

Nice finds!

That thought actually occurred to me too. I have never seen a large cent that is all cracked and peeling like this one is. I wonder if there is any documentation of there being an 1823 counterfeit?
 

Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

Great finds!
Gotta love those cool landowners!
Good luck on a return trip.
That could be a very promissing site.
Start searching further away from the foundations now.
Congrats!

Oh, and please be carefull of wells, or other strange openings at places like that!
 

Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

Those are some sweet finds! Congrats on the large coppers.

I hope (weather permitting) to hunt several cellar holes out in the woods near my in-laws in Michigan during the week of Thanksgiving. Found the house locations on some old plat maps.

I hope you get back out and find some more awesome stuff at your old foundation in the woods.

Jim
 

Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

Nice finds, congrats on your first large cent I would dig all that iron out of the way at the other foundation and get them coins! :thumbsup:
 

Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

Nice finds! Your doing exactly what we do. Find the old foundations, and you'll find the good stuff. Alot of our foundations are not on any maps because they are so old. It's all about exploring the woods, stone walls, and research. GOOD LUCK! The Hogge :thumbsup:
 

Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

you found some great items incajoe. congrats!

Funkman
 

Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

I agree about it being counterfeit. I found this counterfeit Draped bust large cent a few months ago. Congratulations on this coin because it is much more desirable than an original :thumbsup:
Chris
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Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

plehbah said:
Your Large Cent looks like a counterfeit to me.

The counterfeits are usually more interesting.

Nice finds!

That was what I was thnking. :thumbsup:
 

Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

plehbah said:
Your Large Cent looks like a counterfeit to me.

The counterfeits are usually more interesting.

Nice finds!

That is INDEED a pewter, counterfeit LC. I would clean it Very carefully to avoid edge flaking, then dry it and coat with clear urethane or some similar preservative. Awesome!


Regards,


Buckleboy
 

Re: Old foundation in the woods, LARGE COPPERS!

Cool finds and it is nice the landowner was cool about the whole thing! There are some real jerks out there
 

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