Old family hidden treasure story

[Hendrix]

I posted a little bit about this a number of years ago but I thought I would post it again. My great, great grandfather was John Wesley Williams (born 1865). People in my family that knew him said that he was a member of an organization that he wouldn't talk about. My great-aunt said that when she was a girl (1920 something maybe) that a group of men came to their house in Segno, TX during the night. JW Williams went out into his pasture with them and dug up a cast iron pot that had been hidden on the property. The men left with the contents of the pot. Just thought y'all might like the story. It was a big mystery in the family back in the day.

 

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[Chilli]

I posted a little bit about this a number of years ago but I thought I would post it again. My great, great grandfather was John Wesley Williams (born 1865). People in my family that knew him said that he was a member of an organization that he wouldn't talk about. My great-aunt said that when she was a girl (1920 something maybe) that a group of men came to their house in Segno, TX during the night. JW Williams went out into his pasture with them and dug up a cast iron pot that had been hidden on the property. The men left with the contents of the pot. Just thought y'all might like the story. It was a big mystery in the family back in the day.

Have you ever been able to find out who they were?
Was the pot put back in the ground?
Last question though you've probably done it, have you tried to find anything in that field the pot was in?

 

[Hendrix]

Have you ever been able to find out who they were?
Was the pot put back in the ground?
Last question though you've probably done it, have you tried to find anything in that field the pot was in?

No idea who they were. I assume the pot was probably put to use by the family. The most interesting thing I found in the general area was a square Confederate buckle. That was a surface find when I was a kid.

 

[UnderMiner]

Golden Circle cache?

 

[Hendrix]

Golden Circle cache?

Maybe. His father died the year he was born during the War Between The States. So I'm sure he had strong feelings.

 

[BenGatesJr.2010]

That's super cool that you have a family mystery relating to your great great grandfather being in a secret group and having a secret treasure that was lost! Sounds like something straight out of National Treasure.

 

[Hendrix]

Golden Circle cache?

I should add that his father served under John B. Magruder in the 20th Texas around Galveston, TX.

 

[UnderMiner]

I should add that his father served under John B. Magruder in the 20th Texas around Galveston, TX.

Maximilian's treasure perhaps then? In 1867 the French abandoned Mexico and Maximilian's treasury was taken North by Ex-Confederates who had escaped to Mexico following the end of the Civil War. They were said to have smuggled the treasure to the US where it was never seen or heard from again. But every now and then a coin surfaces...

 

[BenGatesJr.2010]

Do you own that coin?

 

[UnderMiner]

Do you own that coin?

Yes, they are not that rare, there were about 3 million Maximilian silver Peso coins made, 2 million from 1866 and 1 million from 1867. However they also made a gold version, the 20 Peso, only 8,000 were ever struck. It has been my dream to find one or maybe even a crate full 😄. Perhaps there are a few in the dirt somewhere. The story of Maximilian and his attempt to start a European Empire in Mexico sounds so absurd and yet had the South won the Civil War, together with the Confederacy's support an Imperial Mexican state under an Austrian Emperor may have been the future rather than a nearly forgotten blip in history.

Supposedly there were waggon loads of coins like this, not necessarily ones bearing his face but Mexican and Spanish Gold of all denominations, vanished in 1867 in the lead up to Maximilian's execution by Mexican Republic fighters.

 

[BennyV]

Great thread.

Maybe your grandfather had one of those KGC caches we keep hearing about. Although I must say that premise has always sounded kind of odd to me. Small caches all over to support the cause? Why not a few larger ones and be done with it.

 

[UnderMiner]

Great thread.

Maybe your grandfather had one of those KGC caches we keep hearing about. Although I must say that premise has always sounded kind of odd to me. Small caches all over to support the cause? Why not a few larger ones and be done with it.

My theory is the Confederacy, KGC, the Second Mexican Empire, the Second French Empire, and perhaps even the Victorian British Empire, were all conspiring in a way that would have created a new European Ethno state out of all the land encompassing the Gulf of Mexico. The Confederate secession from the US wasn't meant to be the start of a Civil War, it was meant to be the first step in the founding of a completely new European nation in America in blatant disregard of the Monroe Doctrine. This is why the Austrian prince Maximilian traveled to Mexico and why the Second French Empire supported him with boots on the ground, why the British supplied the South arms and ammunition, warships and supplies - some shipped to Mexico and then overland across the Rio Grande breaking the US blockade. And don't think just because a true European Ethno State never officially formed from the KGC plan that it didn't materialize in another way. The term Banana Republic was coined for a reason. The United Fruit Company which conquered parts of southern Mexico was run by many, lets just say "former slave owners", and the fact that people who harvest bananas get paid barely nothing is the reason we can still buy bananas for 35 cents a bunch... but I digress. Ever notice how farm laborers and domestic workers in the US are exempt from minimum wage laws? Just food for thought.