Old coin can you tell what it is

[dduffy]

I was back out yesterday at this farm that i found a medallion. This version of the seal was used from approximately 1878-1914. The University was founded in 1870 and originally called "The Agricultural and Mechanical College of Ohio". The name was changed to "The Ohio State University" in 1878. So i felt there had to be old items at this site.
The 1st good thing I found was the item with Mary Garden on it . Pretty funny that someone went to The Agricultural and Mechanical College of Ohio so maybe her last name was Garden? 2nd good item i found was the Cincinnati Zoo thing. I went back to the spot where I found a 1934 Wheat penny(just wanted to find something with a date on it) I was pretty excited when this coin came out of the hole. I cleaned it off and could see the RTY and a couple of the stars. so i stopped and figured i would post it here so someone could tell me what it is and how to clean it.

 

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[72cheyenne]

The coin looks like a large cent. It looks a little crusty near the edges. Somebody will be along with the best suggestion for cleaning it.

 

[vayank54]

It's a large cent from the head and the fact that the last zero is visible it looks like it's 1840 or 1850 . They made large cents from 1793 to 1857 Old copper coins are hard to clean without losing detail. Let it dry and brush the dirt off with a toothbrush. If the detail is still hard to make out try soaking it in perozide. I wouldn't put it in any kind of cleaner or detergent though.

 

[BioProfessor]

I agree on the large cent. Start cleaning some of the crud with Diet Coke. Q-Tip may do it but you can get a little more aggressive with a toothpick. Anything more powerful and you may find the detail is really held together with crud and it disappears when you clean it more. After getting off the easy stuff, you can seal the details with some microcrystalline wax. Olive oil will also accomplish much of the same thing but not as permanent as the wax.

Nice finds.

Daryl

 

[dduffy]

Thank you Daryl. The Mary Garden item has a hinge on the top i think I'm going to clean it up and open it to see if anything is in it 1st.

Duff

 

[BioProfessor]

Opening things are like straightening things. Sometimes not a good idea. More than likely, the pin in the hinge is steel and has rusted into place. I would clean the item first and then let it completely dry so there is no water in the hinge. Then use a toothpick to apply some oil specifically made to loosen rusty things - like 3 in 1 oil. Put some on just the hinge and let it soak for a day. Put some more and let it soak more. If you can then put something between the two halves and put gentle pressure on it, do this just until you feel it move. Then more oil, more soaking. Then a little more pressure to open. If it moves some more, repeat. If not. STOP.

It may be worth it. Never know.

Daryl

 

[GpSnoopy]

Good luck on the cleaning.

I searched a bit on the Mary Garden container, and did find that there was a French Perfume company by that name in the early 1900's.

Here is a link to an ornate compact from that company. It is possible that yours contained some cosmetics from that company as well.

http://www.rubylane.com/shops/timeinabottle/item/18C388

 

[dduffy]

Good luck on the cleaning.

I searched a bit on the Mary Garden container, and did find that there was a French Perfume company by that name in the early 1900's.

Here is a link to an ornate compact from that company. It is possible that yours contained some cosmetics from that company as well.

http://www.rubylane.com/shops/timeinabottle/item/18C388

Looks like you are correct GpSnoopy. I cleaned it up and found this on the back. I'm hoping something is inside.

Duff

 

[Mackaydon]

PARFUMS RIGAUD is one of the oldest perfumers and dates back to the early 19th century when King Louis XVIII of France signed a decree giving the sole rights to the RIGAUD family for the manufacturing of a scented Macassar oil.

In 1852, JBF RIGAUD revolutionized the perfumery world by introducing new fragrances into the traditional French perfumery. His creative genius extended to the hitherto unknown field of marketing and in 1868 he conquered the American market where he won the leading place thanks to large scale promotional investment.

Subsequently, the RIGAUD family developed luxury scents such as KANANGA, UN AIRE EMBAUME, VERS LA JOIE, PARFUM TENDRE, etc.......and by the turn of the century had become the leading perfumers of the time.

"Paris" is also seen under the name Rigaud.
Don....

 

[Silver Searcher]

Some nice finds should clean up well, forget the Coke unless your thirsty good old OO will do the trick much safer

SS

 

[BioProfessor]

What's OO? Safer than Diet Coke? You sure?

Daryl

 

[romeo-1]

I agree on the large cent. Start cleaning some of the crud with Diet Coke. Q-Tip may do it but you can get a little more aggressive with a toothpick. Anything more powerful and you may find the detail is really held together with crud and it disappears when you clean it more. After getting off the easy stuff, you can seal the details with some microcrystalline wax. Olive oil will also accomplish much of the same thing but not as permanent as the wax.

Nice finds.

Daryl

Diet Coke!!??! Ummm, I would leave the pop for drinking and Hydrogen Peroxide for cleaning...just don't mix up the two.

 

[BioProfessor]

Yes Diet Coke. You have know what's in it. It works great. What's the problem?

Daryl

 

[GopherDaGold]

What's OO? Safer than Diet Coke? You sure?

Daryl

Double aught steel wool I think.

 

[BioProfessor]

That's safer than Diet coke? Holy cow.

Daryl

 

[dduffy]

Here is what Deit coke was able to do. Now i'm going to try soaking the coin in peroxide. I found this post!!!!
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?topic=39135.0

 

[BioProfessor]

Don't quit with the diet coke yet. Let it soak for a bit and use a wooden toothpick to get stuff off. When nothing comes off - paper towel clean - then switch. Post pictures of the end of using Diet Coke and then peroxide. It will be good to see.

Daryl

 

[Silver Searcher]

Diet Coke or any Coke will lift patina, OO is Olive Oil, you can also cook with it

SS

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

It needs something.

Can we see a side view of the Cinncinnati Zoo thing? Is it a match box?

 

[BioProfessor]

The reason I like Diet Coke is that on the hundred of things I have used it on, it has NEVER lifted the patina or gilt. I even simmer stuff in it.

Daryl