Old button, U.S Indian Department Back Mark

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Found this button today at a old farm house... says god helps those who help themselves... found one just like it on ebay says its rare... backmark is U.S Indian Department... i found that the quote is from ben franklin and is not in the bible... anybody know anything about this button... thanks guys!!!!! ;D ;D
 

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The buttons were actually produced for the Indian Department by the Waterbury Button Co., who listed "U.S. Indian Department" among their backmark dies for the period of 1875-1935. Exactly where these buttons fall within that time frame, I'm not sure.

I believe that Montana Jim has dug a number of these, so he may be able to offer more detailed information about them.
 

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The buttons were actually produced for the Indian Department by the Waterbury Button Co., who listed "U.S. Indian Department" among their backmark dies for the period of 1875-1935. Exactly where these buttons fall within that time frame, I'm not sure.

I believe that Montana Jim has dug a number of these, so he may be able to offer more detailed information about them.

I have dug a few of those... and my partner Wingman Tony has dug three.

There were two styles of Indian Police buttons... your's being the older style.

Here is some interesting additional information:

Indian police and judges helped to preserve law and order, and assisted with other principal agency tasks. In 1878 Congress authorized police units to fill the power vacuum created by the withdrawal of military troops from the West and the weakened authority of tribal chiefs. What began as an experiment blossomed within three years into a system that operated on forty-nine reservations and included eighty-four commissioned officers and 786 non-commissioned officers and privates. "The question has been asked whether these policemen can be depended upon," reported Commissioner of Indian Affairs Thomas J. Morgan in 1890:

To the Indian Office, a disciplined and well-trained police force also served as a "perpetual educator" for fellow Natives who would walk the white man’s road. Indeed, a button on the police uniform depicted an Indian plowing and surrounded by the words: "God helps those who help themselves." Another weapon in the federal government’s acculturation arsenal was the courts of Indian offenses established by the Interior Department in the early 1880s. In less than a decade, ninety-three Native judges staffed courts at twenty-eight agencies. They enforced Indian Office rules that forbid the sun dance, scalp and war dances, polygamy, and various practices of medicine men. The courts also heard cases against Indians charged with theft, destruction of property, drunkenness, and trafficking in intoxicating liquors.

That is an awesome find... I've been told while you may never see another one here (unless I find it) 8) that they are not necessarily rare and are available in button collecting circles. I will tell you they are hardly ever found dug, and I think you have a fantastic button!

Somehow it made it's way back to Ohio from the west here... Montana, Wyoming, etc...
 

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wow thanks a lot all.. thats very interesting.. good info Jim .thanks! thats weird i have found 2 police buttons this week at different houses!! the thing that concernes me Jim is that you said a native american plowing,, but my button looks like a settler with his small house... heres a pic of the exact button i found online.
 

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Rare or not, I'd be thrilled with that button!!! Very nice find, Congrats!! :)
 

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Yea... It's prolly a pioneer or settler depicted... but the intent was to show that prosperity comes through hard work...
 

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Its design and inscription suggest that this button probably was introduced about the time of the Dawes Act, or General Allotment Act of 1887, which authorized division of tribal lands for allotment to individual Indians and their families. This was an effort aimed at establishing them as independent farmers or property owners, rather than continuing to occupy lands as large, unified tribes.
 

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Very excellent find!

HH
-GC
 

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On Page 192 of "The West from a Car Window" by Richard Harding Davis (Harper and Brothers, NY, 1892) there is specific mention of the "God helps......." phrase appearing on brass buttons being worn by an Indian policeman. The text includes this passage: ".......with the figure of an Indian toiling at a plough in the centre (sic)."
Don.....
PS: After seeing pics of those early cars, I can't imagine what the experience would have been like driving the roads (wagon trail ruts) of the day.

Source:
"http://books.google.com/books?id=F2...ts=sARwD-Ar2a&sig=TIkspMb_wq_9zKlhjvifFjMbjRo
 

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the " idea" shown on the button made by the (white man) US GOVT is that indains were supposed to "take up" farming thus becoming more like the (white man) "farmers" and blending into the ways of the white men forgoing the "old ways" of being a "hunter - gather" people and "stay put" on the areas they were told to stay at. (also if you want something work for it -- don't just become a welfare case by count on the govt to "give" you stuff -- * the words "god helps those who help themselves" -- means get off your butt and go to work if you ever want to have anything) -- theres a lot of meaning in those buttons -- Ivan
 

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Hi! Just found this site, and this 2006 post... I found one of these buttons on our ranch in southern NM! The Mescalero Indian reservation is about 30 miles from us. This is a very interesting button!
 

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Welcome!

Congratulations on the rare button find.
 

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Re: Old button, US Indian Dept.
Hi! Just found this site, and this 2006 post... I found one of these buttons on our ranch in southern NM! The Mescalero Indian reservation is about 30 miles from us. This is a very interesting button!
 

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