Old Beer Stien

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I picked this up a thrift store yesterday, because I believe it to be rather old and made around at least a hundred years. I'm thinking it was produced around the later 19th century or early 20th. I'm just wondering if any one of you might have a bit more knowledge on what constitutes an authentic antique German Stein. It stands 9 inches tall and is made of an olive colored glass with beautiful fired on glass enameling.
 

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I like to open the lids and hold the bottom towards a light while looking inside as if through the bottom.
A friend got me started when showing me some German mugs.
Some have interesting things to see.
No , not imaginary things , l.o.l..
[A lithopane is a porcelain picture in the bottom of a beer stein and in some teacups. You can't see them until you hold them up to the light. ]
 

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I like to open the lids and hold the bottom towards a light while looking inside as if through the bottom.
A friend got me started when showing me some German mugs.
Some have interesting things to see.
No , not imaginary things , l.o.l..
[A lithopane is a porcelain picture in the bottom of a beer stein and in some teacups. You can't see them until you hold them up to the light. ]

Yeap I got one with a risqué or scantily clad female to feast your eyes upon once you finish your tasty brew.
 

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Beautiful piece!! I would think it was for a presentation or maybe gift. (something special) Someone here will know.
 

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The wording seems to be in a gothic script variation of what is known as ‘Schwabacher’ which was the most frequently-used lettering style in olden times in Germany. Although displaced in the 1500s by ‘Fraktur’ it remained in use as a secondary style for Fraktur where emphasis was needed and was used in a similar way to italics through to the mid-20th Century. Both styles were officially outlawed in 1941 on the orders of Martin Bormann (after discussion with Hitler), having been declared “Schwabacher Judenlettern” (Jew-letters of Schwabach) with no German heritage.

I think you can be sure your stein is pre-1941 and might well be early 1900s (see note on ‘stein’ at the bottom).

They’re very difficult to read, but I read the second word as “Hudenken”. Although that might be a surname/company name it’s a pretty uncommon one. As an ordinary word it would translate as “thinking”. The first word is more troublesome. It might be “Bunt”, which would translate as “colourful” or “gay” (in a non-LGBT sense) or “festive” in a celebratory sense.

My guess is that this is not a name but a drinking toast with a literal meaning centred around happy thoughts that more liberally translates as “cheers” and perhaps specifically in connection to a beer festival in an Oktoberfest sense.

The same ‘Hudenken’ word appears on other German drinking vessels from around the early 1900s. Here it is on the lid of another stein (at the very top) and also on a teacup. The lettering style here is easier to read, but on these items the word ‘Bunt’ (or whatever) isn’t present. I think it still has the same kind of meaning but without ‘festive’ overtones.

Hudenken 1.webp Hudenken 2.webp


[NOTE: ‘Stein’ simply means ‘stone’ in German and was rarely used to describe beer mugs, which were more commonly referred to by terms such as krug, humpen or seidel. Stoneware/earthenware as a material traditionally used for beer mugs and other containers is known as steinzeug/steingut and a stoneware jug or mug as a steinkrug. The use of ‘stein’ to describe beer mugs probably arose as a contraction of those terms by non-German speakers, later popularised by American soldiers.
The exception is the use of the term ‘stein’ in the very western Rhineland area of Germany, where it specifically refers to a one litre glass beer mug. Glass wasn’t widely used for everyday beer mugs until after it was introduced at the 1892 Oktoberfest.]
 

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"Zum Andenken" = 'in rememberance'.

These were sold as souvenirs and presented as gifts.The beer glass could be made in Bohemia,1890 - 1910.

Cheers!
 

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Well thank you Red-Coat and Erdspiegel for the detailed information.
 

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Erdspiegel - we just saw how hard it is for most non-Germans to read fraktur. A woman from the former DDR expressed surprise at seeing me reading a book printed in fraktur type and said many Germans under 50 years old would not be able to read it, either. Would you say this is true?
 

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@BAW

It's the matter of practice.I'm steady in fraktur type by antique books,old newspapers and documents as a collector.My mother's not.She is 82 years old and did read her last fraktur typed book around 1950 at school.
A lot of younger Germans are able to read fraktur type;militaria collectors,students,teachers,nerdy bookworms....and treasure hunters.Old books often tell the right place to be.:angel3:

Another advantage is to be able to read the 'Sütterlin' script.But when I'm out of it for a time,I have to learn again.:icon_scratch:
Good for reading old letters and some books,too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sütterlin
 

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Usually there are the markings on the bottom of the stein to say where it was made and other details...Can you provide a picture of the bottom? Would be good to see the handle..

There is a clear '07' in a leaf on the right..

Icelandic:

"Buin" is Done
Huden means skin
Kett is Cat


Done skinning the Cat?????

also can mean done getting undressed....

hahahahaha

This is really cool!
Beer_Stein_Lid_for_Bottles_Flaschendeckel__85297.1421782257.webp
 

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Usually there are the markings on the bottom of the stein to say where it was made and other details...Can you provide a picture of the bottom? Would be good to see the handle..

There is a clear '07' in a leaf on the right..

Icelandic:

"Buin" is Done
Huden means skin
Kett is Cat


Done skinning the Cat?????

also can mean done getting undressed....

hahahahaha

This is really cool!
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No marks on the bottom or handle, but I did notice for the first time an etched mark, which I believe designates the volume of the tank.
 

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