ok, this one appears ancient.

[yellow1053]

I know nothing about this one, it is counter punched on one side. very interesting.

 

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[CRUSADER]

http://www.stoa.org/gallery/album87/mark_augustus_as_6
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/sear5/s1690.html
Augustus AE As, Mint of Lugdunum, after 10 B.C.
26.5 mm, 10.74 gm
Obv: CAESAR PONT MAX. Laureate head right.
Rx: ROM ET AVG. grand altar of Lugdunum with many ornaments

The counterstamp was an official stamp used for various Legions (can you see the no.s on the stamp?). The counterstamp makes it more interesting & collectable.

However, I can't tell well enough from the photo if it real or a copy.

 

[traderoftreasures]

i would guess if undug probably real

 

[yellow1053]

http://www.stoa.org/gallery/album87/mark_augustus_as_6
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/sear5/s1690.html
Augustus AE As, Mint of Lugdunum, after 10 B.C.
26.5 mm, 10.74 gm
Obv: CAESAR PONT MAX. Laureate head right.
Rx: ROM ET AVG. grand altar of Lugdunum with many ornaments

The counterstamp was an official stamp used for various Legions (can you see the no.s on the stamp?). The counterstamp makes it more interesting & collectable.

However, I can't tell well enough from the photo if it real or a copy.

Wow! I thought for sure it would take a while to id this one. you guys are GOOD! I used 18X magnification, and can't determine any numbers in the stamp. something is there, but the dirt and age make it difficult. how do we tell if it is real? I weighed it and it came in at 10.9 grams.

 

[CRUSADER]

http://www.stoa.org/gallery/album87/mark_augustus_as_6
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/sear5/s1690.html
Augustus AE As, Mint of Lugdunum, after 10 B.C.
26.5 mm, 10.74 gm
Obv: CAESAR PONT MAX. Laureate head right.
Rx: ROM ET AVG. grand altar of Lugdunum with many ornaments

The counterstamp was an official stamp used for various Legions (can you see the no.s on the stamp?). The counterstamp makes it more interesting & collectable.

However, I can't tell well enough from the photo if it real or a copy.

Wow! I thought for sure it would take a while to id this one. you guys are GOOD! I used 18X magnification, and can't determine any numbers in the stamp. something is there, but the dirt and age make it difficult. how do we tell if it is real? I weighed it and it came in at 10.9 grams.

First sign of some types of copy (depending on how they produced it) is a mould mark around the edge. A thin raised line around the whole of the edge. Does it show any signs of this?

Did you find it in the ground in the US? Doesn't discount real ones as they have been losed by collectors etc..

I'm pretty good with spotting copies by photo's but this one has me stumped a little. I'm 50% sure both ways. If I were a betting man I would go with real, but might get burnt when you tell me about the edge.

(many legal copies have the word 'COPY' or other stamps which yours does not, so thats good news so far......)

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

What type of metal is this?

 

[yellow1053]

What type of metal is this?

Ok, it does not have any mold lines on the edge. as a matter of fact the edge is not very uniform at all (not perfectly flat or round). I myself didn't dig it, so not sure where it originally came from (bought from someone). and it is either copper or bronze in material (with green patina as an extra bonus)

 

[CRUSADER]

What type of metal is this?

Ok, it does not have any mold lines on the edge. as a matter of fact the edge is not very uniform at all (not perfectly flat or round). I myself didn't dig it, so not sure where it originally came from (bought from someone). and it is either copper or bronze in material (with green patina as an extra bonus)

OK, based on what you said & as its a 'relatively' common type, I'm happy to say real

 

[yellow1053]

What type of metal is this?

Ok, it does not have any mold lines on the edge. as a matter of fact the edge is not very uniform at all (not perfectly flat or round). I myself didn't dig it, so not sure where it originally came from (bought from someone). and it is either copper or bronze in material (with green patina as an extra bonus)

OK, based on what you said & as its a 'relatively' common type, I'm happy to say real

Sweet! (happy dance time)

thanks.

 

[CRUSADER]

I'm pretty sure I can see a 'V' in the counterstamp & maybe a 'I' before, ie IV Legion which would make it one of the following:
Legio IV Italica
Legio IV Macedonica
Legio IV Martia
Legio IV Scythica

However, I'm not that familar with counterstamps, as I have found none in the 7000 or so I have dug.

Worth doing more research for the stamp.

 

[yellow1053]

I'm pretty sure I can see a 'V' in the counterstamp & maybe a 'I' before, ie IV Legion which would make it one of the following:
Legio IV Italica
Legio IV Macedonica
Legio IV Martia
Legio IV Scythica

However, I'm not that familar with counterstamps, as I have found none in the 7000 or so I have dug.

Worth doing more research for the stamp.

hmmm, unfortunately there is dirt encrusted in that recess and I know not to clean coins, so it will be hard to figure out. does it read from the center out? or from the edge in?

 

[CRUSADER]

I'm pretty sure I can see a 'V' in the counterstamp & maybe a 'I' before, ie IV Legion which would make it one of the following:
Legio IV Italica
Legio IV Macedonica
Legio IV Martia
Legio IV Scythica

However, I'm not that familar with counterstamps, as I have found none in the 7000 or so I have dug.

Worth doing more research for the stamp.

hmmm, unfortunately there is dirt encrusted in that recess and I know not to clean coins, so it will be hard to figure out. does it read from the center out? or from the edge in?

It does not look like it need more cleaning, leave as is.
The stamps I have seen read left to right, so it seems to be stamped on its side (ie. centre to edge).
Really need a specialist in counterstamps & they will reconsize it more easily. Maybe there are some dealers who might be selling similar you could contact for info Up to you how much more detail you want or if your happy with what you have for the time being.

 

[yellow1053]

Good advice. yeah, I'll leave it as is. Very cool. thanks.