Ok, so now Ive done the acid test of my technique. (with a hat tip to Scrappy).

[WHADIFIND]

Ok, so now I've done the acid test of my technique. (with a hat tip to Scrappy).

LAST UPDATE.








Any who've been following my exploits knows I've been trying out a few changes to the way I hunt.
The last three hunts, in three different places all seemed to say, "Ok....this seems to be working."

I needed one more. A different kind of hunt, in a place that I KNOW real well and what I can expect.
Scrappy, in one of his posts mentioned, "The Giving Tree". And that reminded me of one particularly
old tree that I have only done some minor work around, but mostly just cherry picked. This was because
the tree was a known spot for beer parties. Plus there was a TON of iron around it.

I was avoiding trying because of all that but I've always felt that this tree is holding some nice things just
aching to give them to me. It's a tree at my "mansion"!

Scrappy's post reminded me of this and I said "perfect!" So, off I went today to play in the mud around this
tree. I wanted to see if my technique could stand up to such a challenge. I'll let you guys decide:







This appears to be an axe head.


The weight on the left has a 3 on it, the other appears to have something stamped but I can't read it.
The reed actually has a C# stamped on it.





I'm VERY happy finding ANY coins there! '20 Wheatie.




A very nondescript coin? Does anyone see what I'm seeing?
A part of a design, sort of like the bottom of a shield like item near to 6-oclock?
AND.....MAYBE....even a date?

This next one is also a puzzle:



A completely featureless coin?
Not quite, for when I turned it over & tooth-picked some more:



I saw a face staring back at me! LOL
And...even some characters!

I haven't a clue! LOL

Anyway, if the mansion can give up this much stuff in just one 4 hour hunt,
in only one third of approx 30' x 30' grid, I suspect that 2016 is going to be a VERY interesting year!

Feel free to comment on any or all.

Fishy seemed to like the big crotal, Blingie? Well, he's kinda turned his back on relics. No shiny-shiny.

Thanks for peeking!

 

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[Old Dude]

Wow! As many threads as I have seen you post about the Mansion, I would never have thought you could find that much in such a small area. Those are some nice old relics. I really like the bell. Hope you can get more detail from that " shielded " mystery coin.

 

[Loco-Digger]

Here I thought Timothy Leary was involved. Man Whadi you are tearing it up this season. Congrats on pulling all those keepers. I an very curiour myself about the ID of the last pictured item. You had an awesome day.

 

[BigWaveDave]

Do I see an "01" on that coin?....oh my.

 

[Rustic]

That tree has seen some things, for sure. Congrats on what looks like a super fun hunt.

 

[Scrappy]

Ok, so now I've done the acid test of my technique. (with a hat tip to Scrappy).

Oh man, your post just made my evening. It's funny that we all have spots that have a relatively unhunted section that we somehow forgot about. Now I've read your posts over the last couple years about the mansion and I'm amazed of your fruitful hunt!!! The last few have been doorknobs and springs right?! Lol

Well I'm glad this tree produced for you and the mansion decided to give up more of its goodies. Any seasoned t-net member know The Mansion is your happy place and that's awesome it's still rocking! There's some great stuff you found and I'm curious about those last couple coin ID's!!

Cheers bud

Steve

 

[detectahead]

Just amazes me that the mansion keeps on giving! Seems like more now than ever before! Great variety of finds, love the skeleton key. All the yrs digging and I still haven't found one.
Congrats!

 

[wagbert]

The last coin is in the style of a Roman antoninianus, a denomination of lower fineness silver valued at two denarii. The legend is of the Emperor Gordian III who ruled the Roman Empire from 238-244 A.D.. The spikes from the crown represent that the Emperor knows and sees everything, and that he is the head of the Roman Cults and as such has direct communication with the gods. ( Halos hadn't been invented yet.) Gordian was a teenager when appointed, and only in his early 20's when murdered.
During that period of Roman history they were like the Klingons of Star Trek, promotion by assassination. Gordian was a puppet emperor with the real governing powers in the Praetorian Guard. Coins of Rome were pretty much standardized. I haven't seen a portrait quite like the one on your coin. It may be distorted by corrosion. Gordian didn't have that much chin, so it just may be some dirt in that area. Still, and interesting find here in the U.S.A..
Best of Luck,
Phil

 

[cjon455]

Love the old key and bell, nice pile of relics!, your mystery coin perhaps a new jersey copper?

 

[pepperj]

Great results from #4 hunt, lots of older variety for hunting around the old tree. Liking the key, the bell, and congrats on the two coins one showing 01 and maybe your oldest? The other one is just very cool and a big of what it is exactly. So congrats on the keepers and your new ways is paying off nicely.

 

[CRUSADER]

The Roman Coin needs cleaning & pictures of both sides, at the moment it looks like a copy, but it might not be. As already stated here are Cru'Dads first thoughts without measurements etc... ''silver washed Antoninianus (circa 20-24mm) of GORDIAN III AD238-244 having a radiate head right. Obv: IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG"

 

[WHADIFIND]

First of all, thanks to everybody for your kind words! This all coming from a very small section around this super old tree, (200 if it's a day), shocks me that I found them. But, not that the potential wasn't there.

And more specifically:

The last coin is in the style of a Roman antoninianus, a denomination of lower fineness silver valued at two denarii. The legend is of the Emperor Gordian III who ruled the Roman Empire from 238-244 A.D.. The spikes from the crown represent that the Emperor knows and sees everything, and that he is the head of the Roman Cults and as such has direct communication with the gods. ( Halos hadn't been invented yet.) Gordian was a teenager when appointed, and only in his early 20's when murdered.
During that period of Roman history they were like the Klingons of Star Trek, promotion by assassination. Gordian was a puppet emperor with the real governing powers in the Praetorian Guard. Coins of Rome were pretty much standardized. I haven't seen a portrait quite like the one on your coin. It may be distorted by corrosion. Gordian didn't have that much chin, so it just may be some dirt in that area. Still, and interesting find here in the U.S.A..
Best of Luck,
Phil

The Roman Coin needs cleaning & pictures of both sides, at the moment it looks like a copy, but it might not be. As already stated here are Cru'Dads first thoughts without measurements etc... ''silver washed Antoninianus (circa 20-24mm) of GORDIAN III AD238-244 having a radiate head right. Obv: IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG"

This is a LOT of information on this coin/facsimile of a roman coin. I did do some preliminary research and found pretty much what's been added here. I am assuming....that this is some sort of copy as I seriously doubt this tree is THAT old, nor do I believe it was transplanted from Rome in AD238-244. LOL

Until I can prove otherwise, that's my story. But, I really have no idea at all how to proceed in "cleaning" any of this coin. I stopped as soon as I saw a face. The picture doesn't show it too well, but, along the side of the bust it appears a bit silverish. No sign of plating, just silver. About 3.58 grams, 23 mm, non-magnetic.

So, I'm not sure how to proceed. The 2nd to last picture above, is the back of the "coin". I don't see any detail at all. But, it might be old eyes.

Could it be? Is it possible? Romans were here before everybody LOL

Either that, or a copy of the face used on a button or maybe, some colonist just happened to bring their good luck charm from over the "pond" and just happened to lose it.

In any case, if any of the curious would like me to take a different pic or something to clarify, please feel free to suggest.

(Actually, I think I'm a bit prejudiced, I think I'm more interested in the possible 1701 something or other.)

Thanks!

 

[WHADIFIND]

Welp, folks, I just don't see how I can get much more information for these two "coins".
They're not very cooperative with cleaning.

Here's the best I can do:






This is what I guess is the obverse of the 1701 suspect
The most I can see is some characters along the top edge
in the picture. Maybe "III" on the right?
And something on the left side.


Can almost see better further away.



This is the date side and I'd almost swear that shield looks similar to the
state shield of MD. But, probably only because I'm more familiar with that one.





Only new thing I could come up with is what
appears to be a couple characters to the right of the date.

As for our "Roman" friend, well, there's just not much more I can do there either:




Not too terrible a face for a very young ruler, huh.



The back is still no help.

Hope that gives the sleuths enough to work with, maybe if I could've
gotten to them last week, the corrosion might not have been quite as bad. LOL

Get out there folks! Time's a wastin'!!

And thanks again for all your help!

 

[digger460]

Well, there round. Going to work on trying to figure out the letters on the outside.

 

[CRUSADER]

The first copper looks like some kind of halfpenny token, with a date of 17??

The Roman now I've studied it is a unifaced copy. (by the way plenty of real ones have been found in the US, nothing to do with the Roman's visiting - kids playing with show & tell)

23mm is the right size but the weight for a solid silver one, should not be much more than 3.2g. Also its too round, nothing on the reverse & the nose & eye look funky. I've seen plenty of copied coins used as buttons, but it's not clear what this one was meant to be used for.

 

[cjon455]

Lord baltimore copper?

Looks similar

 

[Msbeepbeep]

Well you're certainly proving your changes work!
Very nice array of goodies!
Congrats!
Kinda makes you wonder what that tree has wrapped it's roots around and is keeping for it"s self!
The coins are very interesting!
What numbers did the AT give them, and have you weighted them yet?
People collect old coins and hand them down all the time. Where ever people have been they leave trails of lost, hidden & discarded items.
So it may well be the real thing :sly:

Blingie is just going to do inventory of all his "shiny-shiny"....that should take a while!

You have once again proven that "no place is hunted out"
It just requires a different approach. Well done!

 

[OutdoorAdv]

Nice hunt! Your mystery copper might be one of these Spade Geinea Gaming Token made in the 1800's. The date, shield and crown on the reverse look very similar to these.

The Spade Guinea Advertising Token | johnwinter.net

 

[CRUSADER]

Nice hunt! Your mystery copper might be one of these Spade Geinea Gaming Token made in the 1800's. The date, shield and crown on the reverse look very similar to these.

The Spade Guinea Advertising Token | johnwinter.net

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Spot on, that's it. I was think of a different type of 18th C token, but this is a match.

 

[WHADIFIND]

Nice hunt! Your mystery copper might be one of these Spade Geinea Gaming Token made in the 1800's. The date, shield and crown on the reverse look very similar to these.

The Spade Guinea Advertising Token | johnwinter.net

Yep! I am buying this completely! The date that looked like 1701 always did look, (in person), like it could very easily be a 1781! The letters to the right of the date work perfectly. AND....on the obverse:



If you rotate the coin to where the letter "A" on the right, at about 1-oclock, to about 3 oclock and look close, you can just about make out the outline of the bust. At least, in person I can.

Excellent sleuthing! It's always nice to be able to know what it is, "Whadifind-ed" .

Thanks for all your help!