Obama Official: Yes, We Might Delay Obamacare Ourselves

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Let me see if i have this right, bo refused to delay or even discuss delaying bo care it was "off the table" and instead shut gov down to cause as much pain as possible to the American people, going so far as to block our WWII vets from the MEMORIAL THEY AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE PAID FOR, NOT THE FEDS.

Now bo is going to delay bocare KNOWING all along the site was not going to work properly because they were trying to hide the true cost of the insurance...

This is the hero of the left?



Obama Official: Yes, We Might Delay Obamacare Ourselves

Yesterday, we reported that Obama might be forced to delay the individual mandate. This was based on the fact that if they don’t delay it, it’ll most certainly collapse — by pretty much any standard.

Now, less than 24 hours later, an Obama official at the Health and Human Services has confirmed: Obamacare could be delayed, even after Obama demanded that the government shutdown because he didn’t want to delay Obamacare.

Obama Official: Yes, We Might Delay Obamacare Ourselves


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Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly Its Plans Are


The Healthcare.gov website requires that individuals looking for coverage enter personal information before comparing plans. IT experts believe that this requirement is causing the website to crash.

A growing consensus of IT experts, outside and inside the government, have figured out a principal reason why the website for Obamacare’s federally-sponsored insurance exchange is crashing.

Healthcare.gov forces you to create an account and enter detailed personal information before you can start shopping. This, in turn, creates a massive traffic bottleneck, as the government verifies your information and decides whether or not you’re eligible for subsidies. HHS bureaucrats knew this would make the website run more slowly. But they were more afraid that letting people see the underlying cost of Obamacare’s insurance plans would scare people away.

HHS didn’t want users to see Obamacare’s true costs

“Healthcare.gov was initially going to include an option to browse before registering, ”
report Christopher Weaver and Louise Radnofsky in the Wall Street Journal. “But that tool was delayed, people familiar with the situation said.” Why was it delayed? “An HHS spokeswoman said the agency wanted to ensure that users were aware of their eligibility for subsidies that could help pay for coverage, before they started seeing the prices of policies.” (Emphasis added.)

As you know if you’ve been following this space, Obamacare’s bevy of mandates, regulations, taxes, and fees drives up the cost of the insurance plans that are offered under the law’s public exchanges. AManhattan Institute analysis I helped conduct found that, on average, the cheapest plan offered in a given state, under Obamacare, will be 99 percent more expensive for men, and 62 percent more expensive for women, than the cheapest plan offered under the old system. And those disparities are even wider for healthy people.

That raises an obvious question. If 50 million people are uninsured today, mainly because insurance is too expensive, why is it better to make coverage even costlier?

Political objectives trumped operational objectives.

The answer is that Obamacare wasn’t designed to help healthy people with average incomes get health insurance. It was designed to force those people to pay more for coverage, in order to subsidize insurance for people with incomes near the poverty line, and those with chronic or costly medical conditions.

But the laws’ supporters and enforcers don’t want you to know that, because it would violate the President’s incessantly repeated promise that nothing would change for the people that Obamacare doesn’t directly help. If you shop for Obamacare-based coverage without knowing if you qualify for subsidies, you might be discouraged by the law’s steep costs.

So, by analyzing your income first, if you qualify for heavy subsidies, the website can advertise those subsidies to you instead of just hitting you with Obamacare’s steep premiums. For example, the site could advertise plans that cost “$0″ or “$30″ instead of explaining that the plan really costs $200, and that you’re getting a subsidy of $200 or $170. But you’ll have to be at or near the poverty line to gain subsidies of that size; most people will either not qualify for a subsidy, or qualify for a small one that, net-net, doesn’t make up for the law’s cost hikes.

This political objective—masking the true underlying cost of Obamacare’s insurance plans—far outweighed the operational objective of making the federal website work properly. Think about it the other way around. If the “Affordable Care Act” truly did make health insurance more affordable, there would be no need to hide these prices from the public.

Subsidy verification created a traffic bottleneck.

Comparable private-sector e-commerce sites, like eHealthInsurance.com, allow you to shop for plans and compare prices simply by entering your age and your ZIP code. After you’ve selected a plan you like, you fill out an on-line application. That substantially winnows down the number of people who rely on the site for network-intensive tasks.

The federal government’s decision to force people to apply before shopping, Weaver and Radnofsky write, “proved crucial because, before users can begin shopping for coverage, they must cross a busy digital junction in which data are swapped among separate computer systems built or run by contractors including CGI Group Inc., the healthcare.gov developer, Quality Software Services Inc., a UnitedHealth Group Inc. unit; and credit-checker Experian PLC. If any part of the web of systems fails to work properly, it could lead to a traffic jam blocking most users from the marketplace.”

Jay Angoff, a former federal official at the agency that oversees the exchange, told theJournal that he was surprised by the decision. “People should be able to get quotes” without entering all of that information upfront.

Weaver and Radnofsky say that the core problem stems from “the slate of registration systems [that] intersect with Oracle Identity Manager, a software component embedded in a government identity-checking system.” The main Healthcare.gov web page collects information using the CGI Group technology. Then that data is transferred to a system built by Quailty Software Services. QSS then sends data to Experian, the credit-history firm. But the key “identity management system” employed by QSS was designed by Oracle, and according to theJournal’s sources, the Oracle software isn’t playing nicely with the other information systems.

Oracle hotly denies these claims. “Our software is the identical product deployed in most of the world’s most complex systems…our software is running properly,” said an Oracle spokeswoman in a statement.

‘It’s awful, just awful’

Robert Pear and colleagues at the New York Times have a piece up today detailing the serious problems with the federal exchange, problems that may get worse, not better. They confirm what we already knew: that the Obama administration refused to delay the implementation of the exchanges, despite the well-known problems, because they were afraid of the political blowback. “Former government officials say the White House, which was calling the shots, feared that any backtracking would further embolden Republican critics who were trying to repeal the health care law.”

As I documented last week, IT and insurance experts have been saying for at least eight months that implementation of the exchanges was going badly, that as early as February officials were warning of a “third world experience.” The Times’ sources are just as blunt. “These are not glitches,” said one insurance executive. “The extent of the problems is pretty enormous. At the end of our [conference calls with the administration], people say, ‘It’s awful, just awful.’”

“We foresee a train wreck,” said another executive in a February interview with theTimes. “We don’t have the IT specifications. The level of angst in health plans is growing by leaps and bounds. The political people in the administration do not understand how far behind they are.” Richard Foster, the former chief actuary at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said last week that “so much testing of the new system was so far behind schedule, I was not confident it would work well.”

Henry Chao, the deputy chief information officer at CMS who made the “third world experience” comment, was told by his superiors that failure to meet the October 1 launch deadline “was not an option,” according to the Times.

Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly Its Plans Are - Forbes



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This is amazing,, political corruption, graft and ineptness.
49.2% or 151 million Americans receive benefits from the gov. hopefully we can get through to at least half of the Soc Sec recipients(accounting for about 50 million) , since most paid into it and played the rigged game the government required.
 

By the way.. I heard a reporter say "declaring Ted Cruz the loser may have been premature"! lololol
 

By the way.. I heard a reporter say "declaring Ted Cruz the loser may have been premature"! lololol

Hard working Americans are the losers..:banghead:

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NO!!! Don't delay it!!! If there are any conservatives, they should insist that this thing stay on track and not just for the public, but for businesses and everyone else as well. Let's get the rioting and lynching out of the way as soon as possible.

As my favorite video game character Leonard would say to Bubba when things are about to get really wild: "Hold on to your butts!"

The poor were given the impression they would get "free healthcare". Instead, they are getting low end insurance that comes with a surprise! What surprise? The Bronze plan under Zerocare has a HUGE deductible before the insurance companies start paying their (according to the ARC supervisor who tried to help me) 60% of the balance.

So, the poorest of the "working poor" (fast food workers, department store clerks, etc.) will have to fork over 6 grand before the insurance kicks in. Now, many of these are the same people who will lose their medicaid on January 1.

When word gets around that peoples' lives are going to be destroyed because they can not get the free care they were promised, and can't go back to the way things were ... and on top of that, they have to pay some money out of pocket for a nightmare of a policy ... I really think we will hear a loud cry from the left for a lynching.

This bunch who rammed this down our throats may have signed their own ticket to hell. The trips will probably be arranged by those on the left who are angry, but the right will most likely be blamed.

What's even worse, is the number of innocents who will die as a direct result of the civil unrest that is coming.

I sincerely hope I am wrong, but after talking to the folks at healthcare.gov it is looking more and more likely.
 

NO!!! Don't delay it!!! If there are any conservatives, they should insist that this thing stay on track and not just for the public, but for businesses and everyone else as well. Let's get the rioting and lynching out of the way as soon as possible.

As my favorite video game character Leonard would say to Bubba when things are about to get really wild: "Hold on to your butts!"

The poor were given the impression they would get "free healthcare". Instead, they are getting low end insurance that comes with a surprise! What surprise? The Bronze plan under Zerocare has a HUGE deductible before the insurance companies start paying their (according to the ARC supervisor who tried to help me) 60% of the balance.

So, the poorest of the "working poor" (fast food workers, department store clerks, etc.) will have to fork over 6 grand before the insurance kicks in. Now, many of these are the same people who will lose their medicaid on January 1.

When word gets around that peoples' lives are going to be destroyed because they can not get the free care they were promised, and can't go back to the way things were ... and on top of that, they have to pay some money out of pocket for a nightmare of a policy ... I really think we will hear a loud cry from the left for a lynching.

This bunch who rammed this down our throats may have signed their own ticket to hell. The trips will probably be arranged by those on the left who are angry, but the right will most likely be blamed.

What's even worse, is the number of innocents who will die as a direct result of the civil unrest that is coming.

I sincerely hope I am wrong, but after talking to the folks at healthcare.gov it is looking more and more likely.

I agree! fully implement it,, no exceptions! Get the rioting over sooner than later!

I loved that video game Chad! Is there a new version of it?
 

I agree! fully implement it,, no exceptions! Get the rioting over sooner than later!

I loved that video game Chad! Is there a new version of it?

Nah, Xatrix went out of business (although I think someone bought the rights to the name) and Intrplay dropped it. I have the complete series, some I actually ended up buying more than one of after they went out of business. You can run it under dosbox, so it is still playable even with win 7 and probably with win 8. Has to be run under Dosbox though, will not run without it on any version after Windows 98 without some system tweaks.

For anyone curious about what we're referring to ... here's level 1 of the first game. I think they have actually fallen into the realm of "abandonware", but you might want to check on it.

 

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