Not sure what this eagle came off of...

[rsilva02667]

Looking for help for a friend... found at a new site so don’t have much to go by for age. I’m sure someone on here knows exactly what this went to! Thanks for looking and HH.

 

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[Tony in SC]

The eagle looks the old style?

 

[rsilva02667]

The eagle looks the old style?

Thanks Tony, pre civil war you think?

 

[villagenut]

may have adorned a shako cap.....

 

[rsilva02667]

may have adorned a shako cap.....

Thank you! Definitely a plausible answer.

 

[rsilva02667]

The chain is throwing me off though...

 

[smokeythecat]

It looks small. Maybe a cape clasp.

 

[crashbandicoot]

I,m just going on a WAG here but wasn,t there a WWII decoration referred to as the ruptured duck.I,ve never seen one just heard of it.Feel free to criticise.

 

[Retired Sarge]

I,m just going on a WAG here but wasn,t there a WWII decoration referred to as the ruptured duck.I,ve never seen one just heard of it.Feel free to criticise.

Yes but totally different in appearance.

 

[Retired Sarge]

The one posted looks like a cockade eagle pin. The 3 loops are for attachment, the chain IMO has been added after the fact. The confusing part is I'm not seeing it in the below reference of American Military Insignia 1800-1851, unless it post dates 1851 or I'm just missing it.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/38738/38738-h/38738-h.htm

 

[Retired Sarge]

From the above reference regarding the size.

"The 1821 regulations stated that cockade eagles should measure 1-1/2 inches between wing tips. In 1832 this wingspread was increased to 2-1/2 inches. Thus, specimens of a relatively uniform pattern and measuring approximately 1-1/2 inches in wingspread will be considered as of the Regular Army, 1821-1832. Similarly, those of a relatively uniform pattern and measuring approximately 2-1/2 inches in wingspread are dated 1832-1851."

 

[CRUSADER]

With those reverse lugs that took split pins, it most likely attached to a hat.

 

[crashbandicoot]

Yes but totally different in appearance.

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Thanks,I stand informed!

 

[rsilva02667]

Thanks for all the great info!

 

[prolab69]

That looks like a cloak chafe, military, probably of heavy wool for traveling on horse, and those 3 shanks were sewn in on a collar and the chain clasped the other side, This is only my opinion because i have found many civilian cloak chafes in the same style, 2 to 3 shanks with a connecting chain, The eagle screams military, I think if it were for a hat, those shanks would be more of a bending tab, I don`t think i know of any hat plates that had round button type shanks.

 

[kermit]

I found a civil war Curb chain once that looked kind of like that it just don't have the eagle.....
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[CRUSADER]

This is only my opinion because i have found many civilian cloak chafes in the same style, 2 to 3 shanks with a connecting chain, The eagle screams military, I think if it were for a hat, those shanks would be more of a bending tab, I don`t think i know of any hat plates that had round button type shanks.

Interesting, all of our cap badges over here have that kind of attachment with a split pin going throw the 2 buttons.

 

[Nathan6309]

Pretty sure it is off of a shako. Found this image of an eagle almost identical to yours on worth point. They had it labeled as an 1830s US militia artillery shako pin.


https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1830s-militia-artillery-hat-shako-1937748257