CASPER-2
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was away on a relic hunt down south this weekend
not beach or water finds - well a lot of them were found in a swamp and I was up to my elbow in water digging a few of them out
but did use my CZ21 water machine
and I did dress for the water
7mm farmer john with padded knees - bathing trunks underneath - kayak river wet boots - one of my water sweat shirts
guys make fun of me - but fri it rained - and I was fine -they got soaked
there were many wet and swampy areas
and I was fine - I could kneel down in the wet where others could not
a road was flooded out and many could not cross without a vehicle - many on foot had to turn back -
I walked right across - was knee deep at its deepest part - told people there - "come in ...the waters fine"
places in the woods were covered in briars and I could walk thru with out feeling a one - could kneel down in them
and not feel a one - it never got above 50 - morning were cold
I was fine - I did wear gloves - but not in pic and gloves were for water too. rubberized
ones found in the swamp waters got caked for some reason - broke one open there on site to see what was inside - once I knew they were minie balls
I saved a few to get pics then cleaned them at hotel
this bullet is known as a Williams cleaner
I was using my CZ21 - guys make fun of me using a water machine
Ive wanted to buy an expensive relic machine - but the depth I know I can get with my CZ21 - Ive been wanting to prove I can compete with the "big boys"
and last 2 hunts I have (2 of the areas I hit this weekend and pulled a bunch of my stuff from - others with T2s, F75s and Deus machine found nothing) - one guy I let him have one of my faint low tones and told him it had to be a minie ball - he had not found any that day - and told him to have at it - he was impressed I think at how deep it was - was close to 2 feet down
I would not recommend a newbie trying it - but I know my machine and use it the same way as I do in the water- I did a lot of clicking from all metal to ID mode
wish they would change the gold button to an ID zero mode so would be easier to check targets - I don't use it to pinpoint - waste of my time in the water
pretty much - all metal and click over to ID mode - small shallow low tones - are nails and this spot had many - and Id bypass them
go for all mid tones and all high - shallow highs were mostly shotgun shells - and there were many
but all machines will pick those up
but I got whisper faint signals - half the time they read when checked as high tones (especially the larger bullets)- half were low tones
but would go for both - most were lead minie balls (CW bullets) and were down real deep
I was up to my elbow pulling some of them out - here is one example - I got faint signal and knew it was over a foot down
I dug to about a foot - then pulled out pinpointer - no reading so I dug out 3 more inches - then rechecked
got a tone and started to take dirt out with my hand and recheck until I felt it - this was last target of the day - partner was at truck and packing it up
being the last target - took the time to take my phone out and take pic of it "as found"
many people will say - "how do you know it was that deep" because I take out the dirt in layers - I do not use a huge shovel
once I get down close I use a knife and pinpointer so I do not damage items and I don't go straight in when I get close - I go outside the target
have seen guys damage stuff from working to fast
this is a 3 ring minie - it is in center of pic
it was about elbow deep
not beach or water finds - well a lot of them were found in a swamp and I was up to my elbow in water digging a few of them out
but did use my CZ21 water machine
and I did dress for the water
7mm farmer john with padded knees - bathing trunks underneath - kayak river wet boots - one of my water sweat shirts
guys make fun of me - but fri it rained - and I was fine -they got soaked
there were many wet and swampy areas
and I was fine - I could kneel down in the wet where others could not
a road was flooded out and many could not cross without a vehicle - many on foot had to turn back -
I walked right across - was knee deep at its deepest part - told people there - "come in ...the waters fine"
places in the woods were covered in briars and I could walk thru with out feeling a one - could kneel down in them
and not feel a one - it never got above 50 - morning were cold
I was fine - I did wear gloves - but not in pic and gloves were for water too. rubberized
ones found in the swamp waters got caked for some reason - broke one open there on site to see what was inside - once I knew they were minie balls
I saved a few to get pics then cleaned them at hotel
this bullet is known as a Williams cleaner
I was using my CZ21 - guys make fun of me using a water machine
Ive wanted to buy an expensive relic machine - but the depth I know I can get with my CZ21 - Ive been wanting to prove I can compete with the "big boys"
and last 2 hunts I have (2 of the areas I hit this weekend and pulled a bunch of my stuff from - others with T2s, F75s and Deus machine found nothing) - one guy I let him have one of my faint low tones and told him it had to be a minie ball - he had not found any that day - and told him to have at it - he was impressed I think at how deep it was - was close to 2 feet down
I would not recommend a newbie trying it - but I know my machine and use it the same way as I do in the water- I did a lot of clicking from all metal to ID mode
wish they would change the gold button to an ID zero mode so would be easier to check targets - I don't use it to pinpoint - waste of my time in the water
pretty much - all metal and click over to ID mode - small shallow low tones - are nails and this spot had many - and Id bypass them
go for all mid tones and all high - shallow highs were mostly shotgun shells - and there were many
but all machines will pick those up
but I got whisper faint signals - half the time they read when checked as high tones (especially the larger bullets)- half were low tones
but would go for both - most were lead minie balls (CW bullets) and were down real deep
I was up to my elbow pulling some of them out - here is one example - I got faint signal and knew it was over a foot down
I dug to about a foot - then pulled out pinpointer - no reading so I dug out 3 more inches - then rechecked
got a tone and started to take dirt out with my hand and recheck until I felt it - this was last target of the day - partner was at truck and packing it up
being the last target - took the time to take my phone out and take pic of it "as found"
many people will say - "how do you know it was that deep" because I take out the dirt in layers - I do not use a huge shovel
once I get down close I use a knife and pinpointer so I do not damage items and I don't go straight in when I get close - I go outside the target
have seen guys damage stuff from working to fast
this is a 3 ring minie - it is in center of pic
it was about elbow deep
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