Not metal, but recycling related...

Brian B

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One area of recycling I found that was decent and is often overlooked, was/is paper recycling. It sort of an untapped market for the little guy. I will now explain how I did it for the benefit of anyone that wants to give it a try. If it's been mentioned on here, I apologize.


I still save, but not as hardcore as before. When I had more free time, I had a decent system going. I was an assistant manager at a small chain retail store in my area. he town was small, not tiny, but not a city either. A few main routes connected through Main Street. We have several convenience stores and a couple grocery stores. All within a mile of each other. Anyways at night they throw all the newspapers that didn't sale out. I simply told them that I was recycling them in an effort to keep them out of landfills, and to get them re-used. I asked if I could put a plastic tote in the backroom or by the dumpster, where ever I could, and they could place the papers in there instead of the dumpsters. Everyone I asked said yes. One paper had the clerks rip the top 1/2 of the front page off to be returned so they could keep tabs on what sold and what didn't, but I told the manager that wasn't a bother. I would be by to pick them up in my travels when they were full.

In my experience, i would have to pick up about twice a week, once on Sunday mornings for the week's haul, and then on Monday's, because the Sunday papers usually filled a tote. It could vary wildly some weeks, but that was the general rule. Somewhat seasonal at times too. But it would depend on your area for your own output. Just let them know that if there is any overflow they can just dump it, that way you are not a pain in the arse when they have too many papers you didn't pick up.


Each tote/tub I had weighed around 100 lbs when full. I would empty them and store the papers in detergent boxes (the boxes the big liquid bottles came in 2 at a time) I picked up from work. They had handles, and were very sturdy and heavy, and the recycler let me throw the whole box into the weight bin instead of dumping them all out. The recyclers paid .03/lb, which, when I started, steel was at $20 a ton, so paper was three times as much, and required less muscle work, stacked nice in my truck, didn't beat it up, was safer going down the road, was given to me freely with people saving it for me without me hunting it up or wanting a cut. Just nicer to work with overall, IMO.

On average, I figured I made $5 a week from each store, x 5 stores. Sometimes more, sometimes less, (some weeks it went in the dumpster as I couldn't pick it up in time. But with even less then a handful of stores, you should bring in between $500-1000 a year at least, probably closer to $800. One of the third shift clerks asked me once when I was picking them up on a Saturday night about what I had going on. He said it seemed like too much for $5 a week. I told him it was on my way, it helped the planet, and that I squeeze one or two extra mortgage payments a year out of stuff they were just throwing away, and then I explained to him how many years just one extra payment a year shaves off of a mortgage and he was like "WTF?!" I actually think he didn't believe me about that part, but whatever. To me that extra "free" payment was the real cash cow of the program.

And on a side note, with the extreme couponing craze going on now, there is another revenue generating stream just putting the groups of Sundays coupons up on craigslist for the people that do that and want as many of them little money savers as possible.


I got out of it years ago because I got a new job, gas at the time climbed almost to $4 a gallon, and it became a lot more profitable to haul metal which went through the roof and has been high ever since. Now that I am self-employed with more time, and gas is a tad cheaper, I am thinking about doing it again.

But basically it depends on several factors. You don't want to drive all over tarnation to get them, but if you have several places close by each other, and they have three or four variety of papers (and hopefully more), and you have a dry place to store them until you're ready to haul in a truckload, you might want to give it a try. The paper and boxes are free (I found people actually were kinda happy feel-good about giving them to me), there is nothing to strip, clean, or separate (just grab and go, really), and if you put all that money you make in a safe spot and put it on a debt all at once, you just saved a ton of interest.


Not for everybody, and it's not metal, but it is free, good for the environment, and piles up quicker then you would think. Just throwing it out there, as a side note. For me it was great, because the place I took it was about a 1/2 mile from the scrapyard, so I could haul both. Papers in the truck, and scrap in the trailer.
 

dingdong said:
here in nyc paper dealers will only buy clean dry paper products 30 yards or more .Less then that you can DUMP it for FREE.Also picking ANYTHING off the curb paper metal platic and so on put out by property owener is a CRIME your car truck what ever your driving will be taken towed away and you get a nice $1ooo.ticket .towing fees $280.oo $53.00storage per day $200.00 release fees all plus tax.Court date is 45 days say good bye to your truck unless you got BIG $$$$$$$$$


Really? I've taken in as little as 100 (and less a few times) lbs to my paper recycler. Must vary by area.

Also, did you read what I posted, or where you just throwing that out there as an FYI?

I asked permission from the stores. It never made it to the "curb". One store locked it in their dumpster area and the others kept it in the back room for me. Pretty sure that most everyone knows removing any sort of recycling material from the curb is stealing from your city. They make money from from that. I wouldn't suggest that at all.


I was directing it more so towards setting up a circuit of places that donate a regular supply to you weekly that you can save, if you have the area, to compliment saving cans, and copper and such. Just made it because I see a lot of people on here talk about cleaning stuff that seems like a lot of work for a little pay. This is no work if you keep it in a small radius of suppliers like I did.Nothing to get rich from, but just another little source to add in. I don't think stealing from curbs would even pay your gas money, lol. Seems slightly ridiculous to even entertain that thought, but to each their own, I guess.
 

Brian-

Man, you are inventive!!! I love the idea...if I could just find someone here that buys waste paper!

You know that people buy and sell coupons on ebay, right? That could be a profitable venture within itself. Who knows if it is true, but I've heard that ebay's largest selling category is coupons.

WTG on paying off your debt...all of my scrap money has gone to paying down debt too...what little scrap money I get these days goes into my fledgling retirement account.
 

clovis97 said:
Brian-

Man, you are inventive!!! I love the idea...if I could just find someone here that buys waste paper!

You know that people buy and sell coupons on ebay, right? That could be a profitable venture within itself. Who knows if it is true, but I've heard that ebay's largest selling category is coupons.

WTG on paying off your debt...all of my scrap money has gone to paying down debt too...what little scrap money I get these days goes into my fledgling retirement account.

I don't know your area, but I know that a lot of churches/libraries/thrifts/etc have paper dumpsters outside their locales in quite a few cities I've been to. They are usually green with a McRuff looking dog for a logo. If you ever spot any of those, maybe you could reverse engineer it to see where they end up. then you may have a buyer.


Also, I still have the mortgage, but an extra payment a year shaves a few years off of the end of one, so it was a big savings in the long run. I know my girlfriend has bought coupons from Ebay before. The reason I brought up craigslist was because I saw someone offering to buy the packets on my area's craigslist, and they were "extreme couponing". I figured if I started hardcore again then I would take the time to save the coupons because of this and post them there or ebay. I was getting 3-5 totes of sunday papers a week, so the supply was there.


The place that buys paper where I am at is a local business and they use it to make insulation (and maybe cat litter, IIRC). It's a family run business. I think there is another giant recycling place that takes everything, but I never checked the price there. I think that place takes everything, even clothing according to some guys that my brother and I talked to at a storage unit auction. They claimed they sent clothes they got from units there. Sounded far fetched to me. But if I get back in to it, I will check it out.
 

Brian B, Thank you for posting a well-written quality story. It’s people like you that make this forum an interesting, informative and educational experience.

Dingdong, Why do you even bother posting. He said nothing about stealing from the curbs. It sounds like you are speaking from personal experience.
 

dumpdigger said:
Brian B, Thank you for posting a well-written quality story. It’s people like you that make this forum an interesting, informative and educational experience.

Dingdong, Why do you even bother posting. He said nothing about stealing from the curbs. It sounds like you are speaking from personal experience.


Thank you for the compliments. This entire forum has been a treasure trove of knowledge for me, and I am glad I could give something back. And I thought the same thing about Dingdong's post.
 

FWIW, I think the newspapers here are in on the recycling of their old papers for the money.

Our local paper has a dumpster behind their building, and I am told that the big city paper has a dumpster too.

I am told that the newspaper deliver folks are required to pick up their old papers, and return them to the distribution point the next day.

If it is different in other areas, I think a person could make money with your idea.
 

Here is a paper recycling story...

About a year ago, I went to a business auction at a place that closed their doors and moved production to China.

After the auction, I inquired about the pallets of corrugated cardboard sitting in the warehouse. "Come back tomorrow, we will load them on your truck, and you can have them for free" they told me. They were extremely excited to have someone haul them off, saving them dumpster fees at $400 a pop.

I spent the rest of the day searching for a buyer of waste corrugated. I finally called my local scrap yard, and he offered me $10 a pallet for it, but only if it was palletized. Since the hauling would be less than 3 miles a trip, I thought it could be a decent money maker for me...I think there was 44 pallets of corrugated.

The deal fell through at the very last minute, but I thought I was onto a good day's wages.
 

clovis97 said:
FWIW, I think the newspapers here are in on the recycling of their old papers for the money.

Our local paper has a dumpster behind their building, and I am told that the big city paper has a dumpster too.

I am told that the newspaper deliver folks are required to pick up their old papers, and return them to the distribution point the next day.

If it is different in other areas, I think a person could make money with your idea.

Yes, I think so. I live in a small town, and we had several local papers from the surrounding area. The biggest city in my area had them tear off the top of the front page so they had a tally of what didn't sell, but the rest didn't. But I know sometimes I took it in, and that paper had box trucks there unloading, so maybe in the actual city they picked up the unsold papers.


Another source of papers I found was library sales. I make my living from books, and go to as many sales as possible. Most will have a section "free" that is usually old reader's Digest condensed books and magazines. I always grab those on the way out to recycle.
 

oh boy good luck easy money there iam going to save paper to thanks i live in Mayberry.
 

Brian, great post and excellent idea, thanks for posting it. I looked into papaer recycling a while back and found only one recylcer that takes it in my area. They were offering 2 cents per pound, but you could mix anything together, paper, cardboard, books, magazines, corrugated, etc. No sorting needed, just haul it in and dump it. At 2 cents a lb and without a trcuk to haul it I never bothered, but if I could I'm sure I could make a few of those extra mortgage payments every year. Great job mentioning that too, by the way. It's a fantastic way to shorten the mortgage and save tons of interest dollars - I wish more people were aware of it. We recently refinanced and lowered our payment, but we keep paying the same amount as before, which adds an extra $250 per month to the payment, and that's shortening a 30 year mortgage down to 12 years, and saving us approx $72K in interest payments.


Here is a great mortgage calculator that lets you figure out how much you can save by making extra payments:

http://www.mtgprofessor.com/mpcalculators/ExtraPaymentsCalculator/ExtraPayments1.asp
 

I use to do paper back in the '80's when there was a price for it and carboard to,I'm wondering if anybody scraps glass bottles,and if so how much are you getting.I use to get 3 cents a pound,if I had 100lbs. or more. :dontknow:
 

Produce Guy said:
I use to do paper back in the '80's when there was a price for it and carboard to,I'm wondering if anybody scraps glass bottles,and if so how much are you getting.I use to get 3 cents a pound,if I had 100lbs. or more. :dontknow:

5 cents a pound in So. AZ.
 

Been searching for a place around here that will take paper and actually give something for it. So far haven't found anything. One problem with recycleing paper is if you have a thousand pounds of it you have to load it by hand AND unload it by hand but I guess if you have enough it'll be worth it.
 

I wish I could find a buyer for paper around here.

I was at an auction today, and I could have filled my truck with old encyclopedias for $1. It was crazy to see all of those old encyclopedias, literally box after box after box of them, and the auctioneer couldn't get a bidder.

If I just could find a buyer at 5 cents a pound, I would have made some decent money today!
 

For the guys that can't find a buyer, do you happen to have any paper recycling donation bins that look like dumpsters? They usually have them for paper, shoes, clothes, and the like. The clothes ones are everywhere around here, but the paper ones are generally around libraries and churches. If you did find one of these, I would assume there is someone that picks it up and the library or church gets paid. SO it may be possible to reverse engineer it that way.
 

clovis97 said:
I wish I could find a buyer for paper around here.
My local metal buyer buys corrugated. I see illegal's trucks in there all the time unloading. Have to look closer to see if they have paper or books sometime. It is not anything I will ever do, I have no place to store it and my HHR does not hold a lot, even with the back seats down. :(
 

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