Newbie needs I'D please

[mickter74]

Hi there , new to the site /forum and also detecting ... I have found a hammered that I'm hoping someone could I'd for me .... first all of all .... how to you add pic ? ��

 

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[steelheadwill]

Henricus rex shortcross penny? 1180-1285.
on 2nd thought, John?

 

[steelheadwill]

View attachment 1585603This listed as John.
below Is a HenryIII.

 

[A2coins]

woowza

 

[s2ndjetli]

Soooooooo Mickter. Welcome aboard.. NICE FIND.. I would be hitting that treasure cave again..

 

[mickter74]

Thx mate .... I'm on it ��

 

[unclemac]

you don't just post a hammered with no back story! that is an awesome coin, i would dance naked in the street if i found one of those.

 

[mickter74]

Haha .... it was on my new permission in Sedgefield county durham .... it was a poor day till then

 

[RustyGold]

Welcome to the forum. Awesome find. Congratulations!

 

[CRUSADER]

The most important thing to ID these is the portrait class type (Which I can't help with, other than its 'with Sceptre' & not without) & the Moneyer & Mint, because all shortcross's have the obverse legend HENRICVS (Henry II, Richard I, John, & Henry III).

So you have the reverse Moneyer & Mint as;

WALTER.ON.LV

Which is Walter of London, which gives you 2 possibilities King John or Henry III. You need an expert to tell you the difference. (But I'll go with King John)

 

[Rookster]

Super find. Congrats

 

[mickter74]

Cleaned up a bit

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Years ago, on a forum far, far away, an English detertorist posted a find. I was the ONLY person who responded and congratulated him. And also mentioned that had I found a coin 750 years old I'd still be bouncing off the ceiling and walls.

Not long after that I received a package in the mail. I was floored! Also puzzled. He never revealed how he had found my address (though I had bought & sold with other forum members). It has a prized spot in my coin collection.

 

[CRUSADER]

Cleaned up a bit View attachment 1588040

Yeap, confirms my thoughts were right;
+WALTER.ON.LV

 

[mickter74]

Any idea on class ... been con firmed it's a john

 

[CRUSADER]

Any idea on class ... been con firmed it's a john

That was my best guess but who confirmed it? They would need to know the class to do this!

Walter did classes 5c-6b.