New York state trying to become a police state

[packerbacker]

This is crazy. Can you imagine videotaping the police beating citizens and the police find that "annoying"?
The Untouchables: NY Senate passes bill making 'annoying' police a crime - 12160

 

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[Native Floridian]

Packer, is videotaping not allowed by the law?

 

[packerbacker]

Please, don't anyone liken this to Nazi Germany. It will "annoy" others on this site and who knows what will happen then. They may just try and take your guns away!

 

[packerbacker]

You can videotape anyone, anywhere as long as it is in the public arena. You can't tape people in their homes without permission. The police could state you were interfering by taping and they found it "annoying". The definition of "annoy" would be left to the police at their discretion. If you argued and said you had every right to videotape their actions, how far do you think THAT will get you?

 

[packerbacker]

This bill, sponsored by REPUBLICAN Joe Griffo, is crazy. Don't they already have existing laws on the books that restrict interfering with a police officer? Can't those laws be used or are they not "STRICT" enough? OMG-I'm badmouthing a gestapo-type Republican!!
Griffo said that New York police require extra safeguards because “too many people in our society have lost the respect they need to have for a police officer…. We need to make it very clear that when a police officer is performing his duty, every citizen needs to comply and that refusal to comply carries a penalty.”

 

[packerbacker]

This is an interesting line in Griffo's statement. “too many people in our society have lost the respect they need to have for a police officer….
So, that fact justifies stiffer laws??..................what if you change a couple words?
“too many people in our society have lost the respect they need to have for government officials…." What will happen then? If it's legitimate enough reason to make stricter laws concerning police, then it must be legitimate enough reason to limit interfering with our fearless leaders. Just sayin' but I'm sure there are those on here that will disagree. The government is here to help us.

 

[Jim in Idaho]

This is an interesting line in Griffo's statement. “too many people in our society have lost the respect they need to have for a police officer….
So, that fact justifies stiffer laws??..................what if you change a couple words?
“too many people in our society have lost the respect they need to have for government officials…." What will happen then? If it's legitimate enough reason to make stricter laws concerning police, then it must be legitimate enough reason to limit interfering with our fearless leaders. Just sayin' but I'm sure there are those on here that will disagree. The government is here to help us.

I wonder if it ever occurs to these morons that respect is EARNED. If people lose respect for you, it's because you are no longer EARNING that respect. This ain't rocket science, folks.
Jim

 

[Jim in Idaho]

You just have to love this...."every citizen needs to comply and that refusal to comply carries a penalty.”
If that rule was in force in the '60s...there goes the civil rights movement. Guess I better learn to keep my head down, and bend my knee.
Jim

 

[Terry Soloman]

I think you folks need to slow your roll on this a little. The Untouchables: NY Senate passes bill making 'annoying' police a crime ? RT USA The laws are very clear Is It Legal To Videotape The Police In New York? - The Warshawsky Law Firm Blog New York City Employment Law Firm Lawyer Attorney Law Firm

 

[DeepseekerADS]

You can videotape anyone, anywhere as long as it is in the public arena. You can't tape people in their homes without permission. The police could state you were interfering by taping and they found it "annoying". The definition of "annoy" would be left to the police at their discretion. If you argued and said you had every right to videotape their actions, how far do you think THAT will get you?

Try telling this to all the citizens who have had their cell phones confiscated by the police - like the recent fatal beating by that poor unarmed man....

 

[packerbacker]

From your post Terry that is dated 2012.
Although police officers dish out "dis con" (disorderly conduct) charges like they're candy, the statute itself is fairly narrow. It requires showing both "intent" to cause "public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm" and also a specific form of prohibited disruptive conduct -- none of which applies to unobtrusively videotaping police officers performing their duties in public.In sum, videotaping police officers in New York is legal, constitutionally protected conduct. A person who is arrested for engaging in this conduct may have a claim for false arrest and should consult a civil rights attorney immediately.

Thing is, now, with what they are trying to pass in addition to existing statutes, if the cop feels "annoyed" by your behavior, you can be arrested.

 

[Terry Soloman]

So don't annoy the Cop. Pretty simple.

When I was a kid you wanted the Cop to smack you, because if he took you home to your Father, your Dad would put you through the wall for not respecting the Cop in the first place.

 

[Red James Cash]

If I'm not mistaken,every case where somebody has been arrested for taking video or pictures of cops has been thrown out of court.

 

[Jim in Idaho]

If I'm not mistaken,every case where somebody has been arrested for taking video or pictures of cops has been thrown out of court.

Problem is that you had to go to court...and then you have that on your record...not to mention the expense of a lawyer, and the inconvenience. It should be clear in the law that no arrest can be made for simply videotaping what goes on, nor can any equipment used be confiscated. The problem is the word "annoy". That word can be used to justify all sorts of behavior by the police.
Jim

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

So don't annoy the Cop. Pretty simple.

When I was a kid you wanted the Cop to smack you, because if he took you home to your Father, your Dad would put you through the wall for not respecting the Cop in the first place.

Police were real annoyed they were taped beating Rodney King....

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[Terry Soloman]

Police were real annoyed they were taped beating Rodney King....

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Again, Let’s TRY to keep these debates anchored in reality and facts. Nobody was arrested in the Rodney King beating taping, and if you are not interfering with the police or posing a safety hazard to yourself or the public, you can videotape ANYTHING you want in the public domain – Even here in New York.

 

[Terry Soloman]

You DO realize I'm talking about the Videographer, right?

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

You DO realize I'm talking about the Videographer, right?

No, it wasnt clear in your post... I have removed my post...