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[Irishgoldhound]

You guys hear or see this yet? This will be awesome.. A VLF/PI?..sweet!!

 

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[Irishgoldhound]

 

[Tom_in_CA]

If a machine incorporates both pulse (like for beaches), and VLF (like for land/coins/relics) into one machine (that you can click back and forth), I don't see what ability that adds to detecting. What I mean is: There is nothing "added" that can't currently be done. Other than the convenience, I suppose, of being able to switch back and forth with the click of control switches.

And if it's anything like hybrid attempts at nugget machines versus coin machines, then you can bet there'll be compromises. Ie.: it will not excel in either venue, compared to dedicated machines.

 

[cudamark]

If they incorporate two completely independent systems that can be switched from one to the other easily, that might be a great machine. If like Tom mentioned, it's a compromise machine, it will get yawns after the initial excitement. Take a look at the Gold Bug Pro as an example. It works fine, but, it's not as good as the previous Gold Bug and current Gold Bug 2 for finding small nuggets (the main reason for getting one) and it's not as good as other machines for coin/jewelry (which Fisher touts as being one of it's benefits). You get more versatility, but, at the expense of being great in any one area.

 

[MObushwhacker]

And I still have one of those 'see what it is before you dig it Up' machines'

 

[Terry Soloman]

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[Tom_in_CA]

To expand on what cudamark says: Not sure of the technical ramifications of combining a pulse and a standard VLF together. I mean, the innards, coils, etc.... may be diametrically opposed. But assume for the moment that someone (Whites?) found a way to do that. So that, in theory, a person can effortlessly flip a switch and have a beach pulse on minute. Then flip the switch the other way, and have a standard VLF (for land where he intends to pass iron, or foil, etc....).

The reason why this is highly suspect, is that such attempts at hybrids for nugget vs coin machines (like the 705 for instance) have inherent weaknesses. They aren't the best nugget machines, nor are they the best coin machines. By far.

The reason is: That the GOALS of each venue, when you think of it, are opposed to each other. The coin/relic hunter DOESN'T want the bells of Notre Dame to ring on every pinhead, nail, straight-pin, etc... But the nugget hunter WANTS to hear all those tttteeennnssssy things. So to make a machine that can switch back and forth between each type hunting, is no easy task apparently. Since they are usually built from-the-ground up, for the specific tasks in mind. Thus you get compromises on each end, if you try to make a hybrid.

So I'm not sure what the technical implications (coil types , etc...) of pulse vs vlf is, but ... odds are, it'll have issues. Also remember: Nothing technologically would be gained. We ALREADY have pulse machine abilities. We ALREADY have vlf machines. So what's the point ? Other than a "do-all" single machine so you don't have to keep each kind in your truck. Or perhaps the novelty of being able to sample a target in each mode for tell-tale audio ID clues.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Also the notions of a discriminating pulse have always fizzled. Just technologically impossible. At least at depth anyhow. Anytime someone tried to add an iron ID function, then fabled pulse depth went out the window, to the point where you were no better off than simply grabbing a good vlf type machine (explorer, etc...). In other words: Any ability to ID iron fizzles after the first 5 or 6".

So it appears that 'never the twain shall meet'.