Never say Never Again! Cathedral, Stoneware, Meds and more

jgas

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So it took a bit of convincing Don to go out and try another Pit. We both kinda thought the last dig was the last of the season...But the weather has held out and we decided to give it a try. I begged, pleaded, shoved, yelled and finally coaxed Don into going out and braving the cold just one last time :tongue3:

I was doing research on the old 1893 Sanborn map and measured out where I thought a privy might have been located. The property in question has a huge brick building on it that was built in 1925. There were 3 other homes there previously that are shown on the map. So I commenced to search the area with the probes. After about what seemed to be like 300 pokes in the ground and not finding anything I looked at the map again. Looking at the telephone poles in the area and the ones that appeared older I looked down the stretch of lines that extended across the street. These poles made a perfect line as to where an alley once was through the homes and south through the neighborhood. One pole stands at an area where a new sidewalk and wall for the brick building now stands. A stretch of grass about 5 feet by 30 feet is all I had left to poke with the probes. I figured the privies would start at around 20 feet from the back of where one of the homes once stood. Right next to the telephone pole between the sidewalk/driveway and brick wall I hit what I had been probing for :headbang: On my 301st poke :tongue3: A nice layered soft area with obvious bricks and glass down below. :icon_thumleft:

Game on now...So we bagan or dig and within a couple feet I found the base to a blob beer. A good sign to start, then there was the small layer of coal ash that turned into wood ash which usually means an older pit. ;D So down we went and our first finds were some medicines and a Horseradish bottle from Saginaw Michigan, L M Lyon Markey Gardener. Cool find.

Then it was Don's turn and he unearthed a nice GiltEdge Polish bottle. Really ornate( I think my wife likes that one). Then we started hitting some embossed medicines that we had never seen before. A Geo. B. Cochran Apothecary from Hudson Mass, a Carpenter and Barrell from Albion NY, a J. Dawson and son Druggist from Rochester Indiana and some marbles and buttons at the bottom of the pit. Then in the last corner among the seed layer was a nice quart amber blob beer from W & E Muessel Brewing in South Bend. The find of the day so far. After that we were anxious to probe to the sides in hopes of another pit close by.

Don found the next pit about 6 feet away in the same line near the pole. This too had gray wood ash all the way with a nice cap layer of sand :icon_thumright: Started out with some ale bottles, and a nice bitterquelle. Then it was back to drug bottles. First was a FH Bascom Druggist from Montpelier VT, then a Crumbs Carbolated Chloride of iodine out of Buffalo NY then a HFA Pinckney out of London of all places :dontknow:

That last bottle guided us towards the next find which was a stoneware ink from Denby London area in perfect shape. First one ever we found in one piece. Still has fingerprints pressed into the clay. Right next to that was maybe the find of the day now!
A nice stoneware beer/ ale/ soda embossed withe W.H.H. and a trademark blue ink cross at the top. I hope that this is a William H Hutchinson stoneware bottle. He is the father of the person who invented the Hutchinson stopper. Maybe someone can chime in on this one but I think this is what it is. Not sure how rare they are but I have my fingers crossed :icon_thumleft:

Then it was Don's turn again. He was having a little luck here and there towards the end of the pit but most of the things were shattered. Then he pulls out the last find of the day....WOOOHOOO A Beautiful Pontiled Cathedral Peppersauce. This baby has great bubbles and looks to be in perfect shape. Just the crudeness of it is great. So Now I think he found the find of the day!! :o

A day of firsts had me saying Never say Never Again...if the weather holds out we will be back to go at it again. Maybe there is just one more pit there...Just Maybe!!! Be careful out there and enjoy the holidays. :thumbsup: jgas
 

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A few more pics, thanks for looking! jgas
 

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Very nice bottles...

BTW, looking at how deep you're digging, I wil never again complain about digging a 16" hole...
 

What a way to keep in shape and have fun to boot :blob7:

Jonnie
 

Killer finds, you guys really scored. :hello2:
I love bottle collecting but have never dug privies. I was given permission to dig a privy from an old, one-room school house but I don't know how best to do it with out smashing any good finds. I would expect to find several inks but not too many beers. But you never know.
Any advice you could give me would be greatly appreciated.
ZDD
 

Very nice!!I have dug Cathedral Spices but my #1 Cathedral to dig is a pickle!!!
 

Amazing...you guys are inspiring. I love your posts!
 

Cool digs...the first decent bottle I ever found was the same GiltEdge polish bottle.
 

That's some amazing finds. How do you guys get permission to dig enormous holes? What do you use to probe and what do you look for when probing? I have a great sight in some woods with obvious bottle dumps and I'm suspicious of other areas in these woods I would like to know about for sure.
 

Awesome digs my friend.

I can understand the reluctance that Don felt, it was bitter cold out that morning.

Be safe out there and have a Merry Christmas

DJH
 

Thanks for the replies everyone, I hope that Don wants to try it one more time before the rain and snow...I found another pit right next to these ;D Thanks again everyone! jgas
 

Great dig guys!! Lots of intact bottles in that hole. My favorites are the stoneware ink and the peppersauce.
 

Great digs guys!!

All the best,

Lanny
 

sweet stonewear bottle!!! MR TUFF
 

As always your determination amazes me :notworthy:

That Cathedral bottle is simply amazing :icon_thumleft:

The fact that the fingerprints are on the clay bottle still is pretty cool :icon_thumright:
Doesnt get any more personal than that :D
Take it down to the local police station and have it ran in the database to see if you can find a match :laughing9: :laughing9:

Blaze
 

WOw... determination is the word for sure. I always love your finds and pics! OUTSTANDING!

BTW, in your 4th pic down it appears you're gonna dig that pole right out of the ground. Falls over, crushes wall, kills the power to the neighbourhood, you narroly escape death.... but you got some bottles! So exciting! :hello2:
 

Thanks for the replies everyone. We were never in fear of the pole toppling over....really! :tongue3:

Did another pit close by but only managed a couple more keepers that I will get to posting :thumbsup: jgas
 

GatorFrog said:
Very nice bottles...

BTW, looking at how deep you're digging, I wil never again complain about digging a 16" hole...

Sometimes deep enough that its hard to spot him in the bottom of the hole :laughing9: :icon_thumright:
 

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