needing just alittle help

[goldj721]

Lets just say I acquired this from a dear departed relative. I want to sell it to pay off some debt but I am clueless to its value. I tried researching it on web but got everything from $50 to $12,000 so was hoping someone here could help. It measures 24 1/2" H by 14" W by 25 1/2" D. I think its called a tea table and circa 1750-1780 and maybe American but my girlfriend says "NO WAY ITS THATS OLD" so help me prove her wrong like I usually do. I need all I can get on this one guys. Thanks in advance and I look forward to the responses.

 

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[mojjax]

Looks like Queen Anne style . I think the legs are Cabriole type .

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

It could be a Duncan Phyfe table which wouldn't make it as old as you think.The joinery on the table can help date it.Get pictures of how it is put together if you want a more accurate date.Whether it has nails, screws, the style of dovetail, whether hand made or machined.If it has drawers look on the bottom or back of drawer, the makers put their names in those type of places on furniture.

 

[Rasputin]

Beautiful table but not terribly old I'm afraid. The original tea tables didn't have shelves. I'd say late 1970's or early eighties. I'd value it at about 250.00. Also, it needs to be refinished to realize maximum $$$. Good craftsmanship though; I'd refinish it and keep it if I were you.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Have you looked on the bottoms to see if there is a makers mark or label?

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Claw-and-ball was introduced with the Chippendale style. it may be worth getting it professionally appraised but from the images - $250 to $300 as it doesn't have that look and feel of an older antique. I'd go more with a "revival" style.

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

Claw-and-ball was introduced with the Chippendale style. it may be worth getting it professionally appraised but from the images - $250 to $300 as it doesn't have that look and feel of an older antique. I'd go more with a "revival" style.

Yep Federal revival

 

[goldj721]

For some reason my gut was telling $300 and I was suspecting modern but wanted to get you guys opinion first. Wow my girlfriend will be so pleased to know she's right and it looks like I'll be eating crow for a bit but I'll play it cool and in a way I'm kind of happy for her... lol... Even a blind hog can find a acorn! Not sure I want to put solve on this one quiet yet tho. Oh no makers marks that I can see but it does have what looks like "243/118" written under it. I just posted some new pictures of the bottom and its construction.

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

Thank you for the pictures and don't congratulate her yet, flat head screws and no phillips head( phillips head screws were introduced around 1934) means probably a Little bit of age and the picture from the top of the leg shows hand shaping with a gouge not machined and as for the numbers that could indicate it was part of an auction/estate sale it being the 118th piece of 243 being auctioned off.I would get it looked at.It does look refinished though and that will bring it's value down.Can you take another picture and this one is of the banding around the edge of table the little notched areas they also look hand chiseled.

 

[1320]

Are those modern lathe witness marks on the balls?

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

Are those modern lathe witness marks on the balls?

Saw that also, but I think they were holes from earlier sliders like those plastic ones on it now.

 

[goldj721]

Per your request (Back of the boat) more pics of the scroll work. It does appear hand carved around the top of the leg and inside looks kind of crudely curved making me think old and yes all flat headed screws but could that mean its a replica piece and not that old. Let me ask ya'll this if it was really old would it necessary be signed. Also are we for sure its been refinished what makes you say that? Oh and thanks back of the boat for all your insight you seem very knowledgeable.

 

[goldj721]

Are those modern lathe witness marks on the balls?

I was thinking the same thing notice how they seem center of the wood before the curving of the leg. Also couldn't they be old witness marks just as well?

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

Maybe not the whole table has been refinished but the bottom shelf is what might have been redone, originally would have had finish top and bottom and yes the top of leg is hand carved not machined.

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

A lot of older furniture had 4 prong brass sliders that leave that impression when hammered into bottom of legs.That is what I think left the round circles on bottom of legs.A lathe would leave a center mark and four outside marks.

 

[goldj721]

A lot of older furniture had 4 prong brass sliders that leave that impression when hammered into bottom of legs.That is what I think left the round circles on bottom of legs.A lathe would leave a center mark and four outside marks.

Exactly right back of the boat and yes me and girlfriend was looking deeper at it just now and see where its been refinished. Also she notice something written in char (I think) that hard to make out so going to try to get picture of it this newly discovered writing has really got us perplexed cause for the life of me I see it clear but just don't understand it.

 

[goldj721]

I think your spot on back of the bot. Just posted new pictures of something my girlfriend discovered that's written in chalk under the top shelve and was wondering if it could be a date or maybe what it means.

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

The chalk could also be from an auction, also the bottom shelf to me looks like it may have been replaced that could be why it was refinished and also the makers info could have been on that part of the furniture and now lost.My guess on age would be late 1800's to early 1900's but that is a guess and I doubt it is a reproduction piece to many details are hand done to be a fake because repro's didn't sell for a lot so unless you can machine cheaply it wouldn't be cost effective to hand carve detail's into it to make a tiny amount of money.It could have gone through a few auctions or estate sales if it is the age I believe it is, hence two separate sets of numbers could be from two auctions it has been through, if only it could speak the history it could reveal.Hope my thought's on your piece helped.

 

[goldj721]

Back of the boat!!!! We sure missed this one! This is what an official appraiser says about the table. Check out the link and do ya'll agree?

https://www.valuemystuff.com/us/item-page?id=58745bb685a30915a4e8fb77

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

Back of the boat!!!! We sure missed this one! This is what an official appraiser says about the table. Check out the link and do ya'll agree?

https://www.valuemystuff.com/us/item-page?id=58745bb685a30915a4e8fb77

I don't see that being right maybe the style but why hand carve in this modern age, I woodwork and have done furniture and with all the tools we have nowadays why go through the effort to make 70 bucks.You need an opinion from someone in person or at least someone who specializes in furniture.value my stuff doesn't sound too specialized more like a generic appraisal.