Need PBK HELP on a button for a friend. ***back of button updated***

[dfxmatt]

info on this button please........i guess it's stamped 1777.........old or new? thx.

 

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[BuckleBoy]

Re: Need PBK HELP on a button for a friend.

Could we see the reverse please? What does the shank look like? Are there any backmarks? I can't tell whether it is lead or pewter from the photo, but I'm suspecting pewter.

Buckleboy

 

[Angelo]

Re: Need PBK HELP on a button for a friend.

Here you go.

Worth some money!

http://www.macsoldpapermoney.com/Other Stuff/templates/USA.htm

Tony

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Re: Need PBK HELP on a button for a friend.

Colonial button! US Continentals!

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"10" on the "Confidence-O-Reply Meter" on this one.

Yours is actually probably a militia button patterened after the 1777 (undated) "issue" button.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Re: Need PBK HELP on a button for a friend.

http://www.picketpost.com/rev.htm

USA, 19mm.
Beautiful face with smooth metal and sharp "USA" and shank. Two small spots on the back with metal loss. Shank is complete. Dug off of Route 202 near Mahwah, NJ. $450

Now as to authenticity - you're on your own. You can buy remakes for reenactments from MANY sources.

90¢ for the one above at http://coghlinandupton.netfirms.com...3_122&osCsid=461835077eb45f70ace97076d9d0315e

 

[dfxmatt]

Re: Need PBK HELP on a button for a friend.

He found it in Connecicut, near a old foundation.......so i'm guessing it's real but don't know.

 

[dugupfinds]

Re: Need PBK HELP on a button for a friend.

Personally speaking, I would be worried about the way it looks.

Its doesn't seem pewter to me & is in remarkable condition.

Gut feeling is a copy, but I've been wrong before.

 

[PBK]

Re: Need PBK HELP on a button for a friend.

This is a rare variant of the Continental Army "USA" monogram button.

Modern copies do exist— and I, too, have an uneasy feeling about its authenticity.

That said, if it's the real deal, it's worth $1,500-2,000+. In fact, I know someone who would definitely be interested in purchasing it. (Not me! I couldn't even scrape up a down payment on the replica! )

If possible, please post a photo of the back and I'll ask an expert on Rev. War buttons to check it out.

 

[dfxmatt]

BACK OF BUTTON UPDATED...........THX

 

[outraged]

The casting mark on the back makes me think it is a copy...

 

[dugupfinds]

The casting mark on the back makes me think it is a copy...

Yeap.

 

[Montana Jim]

Geez... what a possibly exciting find!

Continue researching... what if?

I'd try to get it authenticated...

 

[downindixie]

In fact these original buttons were cast,so you can't elimanate it because it was cast.

 

[Don in SJ]

Congrats to your friend Matt, looks like it is the real deal!!!!!!!!!!



Don

 

[DCMatt]

Not exactly the same button (back), but from the same era:

Casting mark...

DCMatt

 

[Don in SJ]

Another cast back of one from exact same period.

BTW your friend's button is in the book "Military Buttons of the American Revolution" by Don Troiani.

It looks like the AUSA.sa Enlisted man's pattern with cable border and relief, interwined and overlaid letters "USA" over the date "1777", the one in his book was found at Valley Forge. 20mm in size BTW.

Don

 

[dugupfinds]

Not exactly the same button (back), but from the same era:

Casting mark...

DCMatt

Yes but look at how clean the mould mark is, and how good the edges are. I really hope it is real, so worth taking to an expert. Easier in the hand than on the net. Fingers crossed, don't get your hopes up & then your be more than pleased if it works out.

I hope I don't seem to be putting the find down, thats not my intention. I say what I see & am often wrong. Research, research & reasearch that the key.

 

[outraged]

I just thought given the even wear on the button...That the casting mark should show some sort of wear...but it looks crisp enough to cut your finger on. I hope it is real...But even if it isn't it still makes a nice add to a collection.