✅ SOLVED Need ID and age on two items found

[pl8man]

I'm looking for some help . I found these two items in the Gold Country of California this past week . I know the button is a ball type but I don't know how old . The other item I have no clue what it could be . Any ideas would be great !
Thanks
Glen

 

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[kenscott]

At the upper bend of the long object, there seems to be a number 4. Below the emblem of the same object, I think I see a number 75 to the right.

Have you taken a good magnifying glass to these?

 

[pl8man]

At the upper bend of the long object, there seems to be a number 4. Below the emblem of the same object, I think I see a number 75 to the right.

Have you taken a good magnifying glass to these?

No numbers on it .
Glen

 

[kuger]

Those ball buttons pop up quite a bit.They were commonly worn by Chinese and could date to the 1850's

 

[pl8man]

Those ball buttons pop up quite a bit.They were commonly worn by Chinese and could date to the 1850's

Thanks for the info on the button !
Glen

 

[hogge]

Could be a "book seal". I don't know if that's the proper "verbage" or not. But I have found a couple that look similar but different.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Brass "Ball-buttons" like yours were popular for both military uniforms and civilian clothing in the early 1880s onward through the rest of the 19th-century. Some military schools continued to use them for Cadet uniforms in the 20th-Century today ...and notably, the famous Virginia Military Institute still uses brass ball-buttons in the 21st-Century.

Thus, accurately dating your brass ball-button is difficult. In my opinion, due to the fact that this type fell out of widespread use in the latter 1800s, yours is probably from sometime in that century. I cannot get any more specific than that, because the photo you posted shows your button has no backmark (a maker's-mark).

 

[kuger]

Brass "Ball-buttons" like yours were popular for both military uniforms and civilian clothing in the early 1880s onward through the rest of the 19th-century. Some military schools continued to use them for Cadet uniforms in the 20th-Century today ...and notably, the famous Virginia Military Institute still uses brass ball-buttons in the 21st-Century.

Thus, accurately dating your brass ball-button is difficult. In my opinion, due to the fact that this type fell out of widespread use in the latter 1800s, yours is probably from sometime in that century. I cannot get any more specific than that, because the photo you posted shows your button has no backmark (a maker's-mark).

Great info as usual CBG,just knowing the area he found it and the popularity of the style with the thousands of Chinese here is why I said what I did,and gave the guestamate of the age,as they have surfaced in sites that date to the mid 19th Cent.The majority of the Chinese did come later and did continue to "work",much after the "Yankees",had moved on

 

[TRIGGERJUNBUG]

Need ID and age on two items found
I'm looking for some help . I found these two items in the Gold Country of California this past week . I know the button is a ball type but I don't know how old . The other item I have no clue what it could be . Any ideas would be great !
Thanks
Glen

REPLAY
Junior Abbott = Both items are upholstery ,1- button, 2- spring retainer.

 

[pl8man]

Thanks for all the info everyone !
Glen