Need help with this one

[Johnfic]

It is made of lead. Showing both sides.

 

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[ROIGuy]

Any holes on the sides? Looks thick enough to have been some sort of seal

 

[Johnfic]

That's kind of what I was thinking, I found it on a beach. Nothing on the sides, pretty worn out. Thickness measures .160
If it is a seal! Would like to find out who's!!!!

 

[DCMatt]

I think you have been duped.

Rotate pic #1 90 degrees left and it looks like a crude skull and crossbones - fake pirate coin.

Over the decades a certain element of folks have gotten their 'jollies' by tossing fake coins onto beaches for the sole purpose of exciting and annoying people like us.

 

[Johnfic]

Very possible, thank you.

I knows it's just a coincidence, but on the same beach I found a 1772 Spanish Real. Also could be a fake or even a counterfeit. It is definitely silver. But, would need some deep cleaning to know for sure. I'm not that good at cleaning so I haven't touched it yet.

I'm curious to what you use to change the coloring of the picture! Clarity is much better.

 

[mk4125]

Well in my area of the country lead tokens are not all that uncommon. I don't think it's a bag seal...unless you see wires coming through or if it's two parts pressed together. My guess is a lead token.

 

[mk4125]

*** copied and pasted an excerpt from an article about lead tokens *** Very common, and usually presumed to be 18th century, are pieces which just have meaningless linear doodles; perhaps the ordinary man's way of distinguishing pieces which, if issued by minor gentry, would bear a coat of arms. The latter do occur occasionally, but are never very detailed; perhaps they indicate either usage on a country estate, or that the issuer was a merchant and member of a commercial guild.

 

[DCMatt]

I'm curious to what you use to change the coloring of the picture! Clarity is much better.

I use a REALLY old version of Paint Shop Pro. I copied and pasted you pic into a photo editor and made a negative image, then played around with gamma correction until I got a little more detail to reveal. I use that technique to bring out detail on many of the relics posted here. Thanks for posting good pics. That makes all the difference.

If you found this "coin" on a beach known for shipwreck coins, it makes me even more suspicious that it's someone's idea of a joke...

 

[A2coins]

I think you have been duped.

Rotate pic #1 90 degrees left and it looks like a crude skull and crossbones - fake pirate coin.

Over the decades a certain element of folks have gotten their 'jollies' by tossing fake coins onto beaches for the sole purpose of exciting and annoying people like us.

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[Johnfic]

Thank you mk4125, I appreciate insight. I don't see any signs of any wires or it being of two pieces. Say it was two pieces, would they have pressed together or melted together?

 

[Johnfic]

Thanks, great detail. I believe I have a old version of Paint Shop Pro around. I shall look for it.


I don't believe there are any shipwrecks in the area where I found the coin or mystery piece and it is definitely not know for shipwreck coins. I have never even seen anyone metal detecting in this area.

 

[Al D]

Yup, looks like a lead wire seal to me.

 

[piegrande]

For general information, I am aware that not everyone can afford the high priced photo editors. There is an open source editor, called GIMP. It does almost everything everyone normally does with editors, but is free for the download. You would have to learn how to use it, and techniques required will be different than the usual program. But, it gets the job done.

It was intended for Linux, which I use, but it has been ported to Windows as well.

There are considerable HOW-TO's on the Web.

If you can afford the high priced programs, that is fine, too.