Need Help With These...Some CW

[River Rat]

All I know is what my husband told me..."These are Glenn's, someone gave to him, see if you can ID or post on the forum".

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other side of all​

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IDed as H. Disston & Sons Philada 1865-1880's medallion from a hand saw​

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IDed as South Carolina State Seal Button​

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Back of the SC Button​

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What kind of bullets?​

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What about this chain?​

 

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[randall61]

c/w 58 cal 3 ringers......looks like 69 cal rounds balls & the rusted ball looks like a grape shot.

nice relics,
randall

 

[ModernMiner]

RR,
It looks like you have a rifle nose cap in your top picture. Here's a few pictures of one I found. Are there pins inside like this one?

Could that chain be from a pocket watch?

Great relics!

-MM-

 

[civilman1]

Those are some Beautiful find's Judie....I think the piece between the flattened lead and the chain is a "nose cap" possibly for an Enfield Rifle,not 100%.The roundball's are part of the little one's,called a "Buck and Ball",very effective...The iron roundball seem's to be a Confederate Cannister shot....Can you measure it?.The "chain" could almost be from a "Cloak",not a 100% on that one either,sorry.The .58's are alway's cool and there are a couple more piece's that could just about be anything you want them to be I think the SC button might be pre-CW,need the Button Boy's on that one.......Awesome piece's of History.Thank's for sharing....

 

[duggap]

Your chain may be off the bridal.

 

[Montana Jim]

I was thinking the chain may be a watch (fob) chain

 

[stoney56]

At 1st, thought chain was part of a nipple protector but the chain is a lot different.

 

[*Dig-Dug*]

The Chain is a curb chain for a bit

 

[*Dig-Dug*]

Sorry forgot to comment on the 2 bullets. Without a size reference and clear picture / description of the base the folowing is a best guess by comparing photos from McKee & Mason's CW Projectiles guide. If the rounds do match my guess, they are pretty rare finds.

The bullet with a single ring appears to be fired and closely resembles a .55 CS Morse ( pg 26 top row #67)

assuming the first ID is correct, the second bullet appears to be smaller and therefore a pistol/revolver round. the closest I can find is a .44 Adams ( pg 28 row 3 #124)

 

[nhbenz]

Very nice button. What size is it? I think the earliest these were made was the 1850's (with the SC initials), made through the end of the Civil War. There were several manufacturers, some even made in England. Need to see the back mark better for more info.

 

[River Rat]

RR,
It looks like you have a rifle nose cap in your top picture. Here's a few pictures of one I found. Are there pins inside like this one?

Could that chain be from a pocket watch?

Great relics!

-MM-

Yep, it matches...the only thing different is the cut/site at the end. You can see it in the smaller pic.

The Chain is a curb chain for a bit

Your chain may be off the bridal.

I thought the same thing...that's what it reminded me of anyway.

Very nice button. What size is it? I think the earliest these were made was the 1850's (with the SC initials), made through the end of the Civil War. There were several manufacturers, some even made in England. Need to see the back mark better for more info.

Benny, I first IDed the button with the "motto", once I got what I was looking for, I hit search...ModernMiner has a few posted. These are not mine, so even if I was told I could clean...forget it. Not gonna take any chances. I can't see anything on the back of the button. but it is in 2 different pieces.

Sorry forgot to comment on the 2 bullets. Without a size reference and clear picture / description of the base the folowing is a best guess by comparing photos from McKee & Mason's CW Projectiles guide. If the rounds do match my guess, they are pretty rare finds.

The bullet with a single ring appears to be fired and closely resembles a .55 CS Morse ( pg 26 top row #67)

assuming the first ID is correct, the second bullet appears to be smaller and therefore a pistol/revolver round. the closest I can find is a .44 Adams ( pg 28 row 3 #124)

I'll try and get a better pic with something to size it...you can see the difference in the 1st overall pic.

Thanks for all of y'all's help. Gee, I wish these were mine, I would have them properly displayed instead of sitting in a jelly jar.

The big lead flattened out piece is interesting...makes me wonder what it once was.

RR

 

[*Dig-Dug*]

Re the nose cap for the rifle - That is not a sight it is a groove for the ram rod. the cap fits under the barrel at the end of the fore grip. the ram rods are stored under that. The groove allowed the ram rod to sit flush with the grip to prevent discomfort while shooting.

 

[NGE]

The flattened out piece of lead was in the process of becoming a fishing sinker, as you can see, the soldier had to stop his project quickly, he could not finish drilling the hole in it......... Not GE

 

[MonkeyBoy]

The cahin is interesting.. I have some of the larger links and the smaller links.. but none together?? The larger links are just like the bit chain.. so that might be what it is?? I have seen a few intact bit chains and they were all larger links.. but just like rosettes there were many, many styles..

MonkeyBoy

 

[NGE]

Could the chain be the remains of a chain mail pocket book?... Not GE