Need help with Id on this.

[lonelyduckhunter]

Found this few weeks back with my chain cent. Thought it was a button at 1st but the back has the number 34 on it. Cleaned up it shows some gold gilt any ideas on this. Its the size of a quarter.

Front

Back

 

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[mainer]

Looks like a button with the shank missin. Dont know what the number stands for though.

 

[warsawdaddy]

It is a button.I've seen them before but cannot remember the id of it.

 

[ivan salis]

UNIT NUMBER IF MILITARY --POSSIBLE -- OR MARKERS MARK OF SORTS

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

They make a coiled rope design button so it could be a button with a wobbly shank.

 

[BuckleBoy]

UNIT NUMBER IF MILITARY --POSSIBLE -- OR MARKERS MARK OF SORTS

Zero chance of it being military. No sense in stamping a unit number on the BACK of the button where it would not be seen.

I have never seen a military button like that.


It is a civilian item, and judging from the design and style of back, I'd say early 20th c.


-Buck

 

[ivan salis]

I agree most military numbered items would be "front marked " but in this case the design would prevent it from being on the front -- i also agree its, most likely civilian --- but on the off chance its military (slim i admit) --it would most likely be a unit number

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

manufacturers number

 

[BuckleBoy]

manufacturers number

Exactly. No way in hell a number on the back of a button would be a unit number. There are NO examples that I know of which support this claim! It'd be like saying that a benchmark on a CW buckle is a unit number.

 

[CRUSADER]

manufacturers number

probably denoted to size, so they could do different size backs to the various fronts

it is a strange one though & the first I have seen, you would have thought it more common practice

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

manufacturers number

probably denoted to size, so they could do different size backs to the various fronts

it is a strange one though & the first I have seen, you would have thought it more common practice

Some French buttons were size marked in MM.

Here are some examples of wobbly shanks.

 

[Iron Patch]

UNIT NUMBER IF MILITARY --POSSIBLE -- OR MARKERS MARK OF SORTS

I have never seen a military button like that.


-Buck

Believe it or not I'm quite sure there is a French military button that looks quite similar. Of course I would have no way to find it, but did get my attention at the time.

 

[BuckleBoy]

UNIT NUMBER IF MILITARY --POSSIBLE -- OR MARKERS MARK OF SORTS

I have never seen a military button like that.


-Buck

Believe it or not I'm quite sure there is a French military button that looks quite similar. Of course I would have no way to find it, but did get my attention at the time.

Did it have a regiment number on the back?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

This may be the French military button that looks similar
http://www.najecki.com/repro/buttons/French.html
http://www.najecki.com/repro/buttons/French/FROfficer.html



I believe, like the others. that this is a coiled rope design civilian fashion button and the number on the back is some kind of manufacturers mark.

 

[Iron Patch]

UNIT NUMBER IF MILITARY --POSSIBLE -- OR MARKERS MARK OF SORTS

I have never seen a military button like that.


-Buck

Believe it or not I'm quite sure there is a French military button that looks quite similar. Of course I would have no way to find it, but did get my attention at the time.

Did it have a regiment number on the back?

No three. (007)

 

[Iron Patch]

This may be the French military button that looks similar
http://www.najecki.com/repro/buttons/French.html
http://www.najecki.com/repro/buttons/French/FROfficer.html




I believe, like the others. that this is a coiled rope design civilian fashion button and the number on the back is some kind of manufacturers mark.

Can't say for sure it being something I seen for 10 seconds about 5 years ago, but that's definitely the idea.

 

[lonelyduckhunter]

Marking it solved. My 1st guess when it was dug was a older civilian button. Just needed T Nets experts opion. You guys are great at id's. Thanks.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The French military button is very similar and I am a bit surprised. It looks like a cup of Jello lol. I think its Napoleonic Wars. Thanks IP I learned something.



The pics that I posted earlier in reply #4 are from Waterburys site and they are listed as Fashion Buttons.