need help with dietz lamp

[creeper71]

I picked up this Dietz lamp and I am wondering if this gold was painted on, or if it's original. Would anyone know the value? In case the pictures are not clear, the embossing on the metal reads "Monarch Dietz N.Y.U.S.A." The globe reads "Dietz Fitzal NY USA" on one side and "LOC-NOB PAT. D 12-4-23".

 

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[diggummup]

Although there are a couple on Ebay that are gold colored, I don't think your paint is original. I found this information-
Dietz only started regularly painting their hand lanterns in 1943, when World War II forced the use of terne plate to replace tin plate. (Street Lamps, and lanterns with a dedicated purpose, such as wagon lamps, fire department lanterns, carriage lamps, etc., were painted before 1943.) Terne plate is not attractive, and not as rust resistant as tin plate, so the Dietz lanterns made from 1943 to 1949 were painted machine gray, which was replaced by metallic blue as the "standard" color. We have not found any documentation regarding original paint colors used by Dietz, however, I have talked to former longtime Dietz employees about the paint colors. It seems that no care was given to maintaining the same formula from batch to batch, which explains why there are so many different shades of Dietz "blue" on lanterns made from 1949 into the 1960's. The shades of red that Dietz used also varies, but not as much. Below I have noted the closest "off the shelf" paint matches:

Rust-Oleum #7587838 Dark Machine Gray:
Most Dietz lanterns made from late 1943 into 1948

Dupli-Color #T131 Mariner Blue:
Current Dietz Metallic Blue, (Used since the 1960's)

Value-Test Americana Red:
Current Dietz Red (Used since the 1950's)

Rust-Oleum #7765 Regal Red:
Vintage Dietz Red (Pre-1950)

Rust-Oleum #7733 Dark Hunter Green:
Dietz Pioneer, Post 1914 Imperial Square Lamps, etc.

Hammerite #41125 Hammered Dark Blue:
Japan Blue Finish used up to 1914 (Apply Very Lightly)

Hammerite #42240 Smooth Gloss Black:
Dietz Union and Motor Lamps from 1888 to 1950

Hammerite #41165 Hammered Deep Green:
C.T. Ham Metallic Green used on street lamps.
used on Street Lamps

Rust-Oleum #7443830 Caterpillar Yellow:
Dietz Night Watch


Here-http://www.lanternnet.com/faqs.htm#monarch

 

[SEANO]

I agree with Diggum.

I know the red is more sought after than the clear glass.

 

[creeper71]

I basicly bought it for the globe, I knew I should make atleast 20.00 from the globe alone...