Need help with a makers mark on what may be part of an early trefid spoon

[Bill D. (VA)]

Need help with a maker's mark on what may be part of an early trefid spoon

Found this at a site yesterday that according to research dates back to the mid-to-late 1600s. A buckle I found there also confirms this time period. I was told by someone replying to my original post on the Today's Finds forum that this is a trefid spoon bowl from the same period. It has a maker's mark on the inside of the bowl that includes a "D" as well as an image of some sort of game bird. I tried looking online to ID this mark but didn't have any luck. Hopefully someone here can confirm the age of this piece as well as ID the maker's mark. Thanks for your help ..... Bill

 

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[CRUSADER]

These are circa 17th C. I can see the bird/dove with I G (maybe I C). I have no books on markers marks but see a couple of similar types of marked spoon:
Record ID: SOM-9D6755 - POST MEDIEVAL spoon - Database
Record ID: WAW-24FB62 - POST MEDIEVAL spoon - Database
Record ID: SUR-759730 - POST MEDIEVAL spoon - Database

 

[Bill D. (VA)]

These are circa 17th C. I can see the bird/dove with I G (maybe I C). I have no books on markers marks but see a couple of similar types of marked spoon:
Record ID: SOM-9D6755 - POST MEDIEVAL spoon - Database
Record ID: WAW-24FB62 - POST MEDIEVAL spoon - Database
Record ID: SUR-759730 - POST MEDIEVAL spoon - Database

Thanks Cru. At least I can confirm it's from an early spoon. The maker's mark may be difficult to ID, especially since the details are hard to see. But to me it looks like an "I" above the bird, a "D" to the left, and a "P" below. Maybe someone else can definitively ID this mark. Thanks again as always for your input ..... Bill

 

[CRUSADER]

Thanks Cru. At least I can confirm it's from an early spoon. The maker's mark may be difficult to ID, especially since the details are hard to see. But to me it looks like an "I" above the bird, a "D" to the left, and a "P" below. Maybe someone else can definitively ID this mark. Thanks again as always for your input ..... Bill

It could be D I but I think they only come with 2 Initials (the I of course will be a J)

 

[DCMatt]

Here is your mark in the finds.org.uk collection:

Unique ID: SUR-78EF24
Object type certainty: Certain
Workflow status: Awaiting validation

An oval post medieval spoon bowl. The wear suggests right handed use.
The maker's stamp comprises a left-facing bird with DI in the field, inside a circular pelleted frame.

[h=4]Subsequent actions[/h]Subsequent action after recording: Returned to finder
[h=4]Chronology[/h]Broad period: POST MEDIEVAL
Period from: POST MEDIEVAL [scope notes | view all attributed records]
Date from: Circa AD 1650
Date to: Circa AD 1700




DCMatt

 

[DCMatt]

Another:

Record ID: SUR-DF8C65 - POST MEDIEVAL spoon - Database

DCMatt

 

[CRUSADER]

Here is your mark in the finds.org.uk collection:

Unique ID: SUR-78EF24
Object type certainty: Certain
Workflow status: Awaiting validation

An oval post medieval spoon bowl. The wear suggests right handed use.
The maker's stamp comprises a left-facing bird with DI in the field, inside a circular pelleted frame.

Subsequent actions

Subsequent action after recording: Returned to finder
Chronology

Broad period: POST MEDIEVAL
Period from: POST MEDIEVAL [scope notes | view all attributed records]
Date from: Circa AD 1650
Date to: Circa AD 1700


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DCMatt

Just shows the experts can't ID the makers mark either, but at least we know its 17th C & its a DI.

 

[Bill D. (VA)]

Here is your mark in the finds.org.uk collection:

Unique ID: SUR-78EF24
Object type certainty: Certain
Workflow status: Awaiting validation

An oval post medieval spoon bowl. The wear suggests right handed use.
The maker's stamp comprises a left-facing bird with DI in the field, inside a circular pelleted frame.

Subsequent actions

Subsequent action after recording: Returned to finder
Chronology

Broad period: POST MEDIEVAL
Period from: POST MEDIEVAL [scope notes | view all attributed records]
Date from: Circa AD 1650
Date to: Circa AD 1700


View attachment 767196

DCMatt

Thanks a bunch Matt - you hit it right on the head. That's exactly the same spoon bowl and marking as the one I dug yesterday. Now I have to go and find the other one I have stored away somewhere. Thanks again ..... Bill

 

[CRUSADER]

Thanks a bunch Matt - you hit it right on the head. That's exactly the same spoon bowl and marking as the one I dug yesterday. Now I have to go and find the other one I have stored away somewhere. Thanks again ..... Bill

I knew the date but gave up on the PAS as it had alot of entries, Matt is the man of research

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Very interesting colonial find!!

 

[Wildcat1750]

Great 17th century find! You were very lucky to have a maker's mark to work with.

 

[relicmeister]

Your finds always amaze me, Bill.