Need help locating 2 forts in jax/greencove

[Larsmed]

hello

I have been researching 2 old forts in the greencove and jacksonville area...Actually there were 2 small Spanish forts or sentry stands, one located near bayard in greencove(fort st francis) and another located in Piccolata(fort piccolata) just south of mandarin. They are on opposite sides of the st johns. I cannot pinpoint the exact locations.

If you know of these places and have some target locations please let me know!

thanks

Larry

 

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[chipveres]

Fort St. Francis = 29N56.32 , 81W36.26 on Bayard Point.

Piccolata is directly across the river, they guarded a north-south road.

My source for this is www.treasuresites.com .


Chip V.

 

[Gypsy Heart]

BAYARD POINT -- (N29° 56.32 W81° 36.26) was where the Spanish blockhouse guarding the inland side of the Spanish trail to the Tallahassee region was located and across the river was the matching Piccolata fort, guarding the St. Augustine side of the road. Known by various names (Poppa, Puppa, etc.) this fort was destroyed in the 1698-1704 raids by James Moore against missions in the Tallahassee region and anywhere else his army could find Spanish influence on the mainland. William Bartram described the Piccolata fort in the mid-1700's as being a square fort with rings for mooring ships to the fort. His description fits the fort on Rattlesnake Island today, and there is no reason to believe that these two forts were not close (if not carbon) copies. By land, you can get to this location by taking Hwy. 226 east off of Hwy. 17, south of Green Cove Springs. Hwy. 226 will run into the hamlet of Walkill, and there you will find one small road leading east off this junction with Hwy. 209. Take this road east to the first right (S) fork then turn left at the only street going left. The fort site is straight ahead at the shoreline. In addition to the fort, there are two springs in the cove to the N. of the fort's site

 

[Larsmed]

Chip and Gypsy

thanks I have found an entrance to bayard...however, fort piccolata looks to be underwater even at low tide

 

[donwon]

I had read up on this fort area myself hope this info helps
http://www.anthro.fsu.edu/research/uw/research/picolata.html
dj

 

[Patrol]

All of you,

Great research. Thanks for providing that.

TE

 

[Thommy]

I know this is an old thread, but if anyone is interested....
JP Hall will have you prosecuted if you try to metal detect Fort Francis de Poppa (Pupa, Pupo, etc.). Please, don't get yourself in trouble over the site. Picolata has never been found, altohugh we did find the location of the Civil War camps in the late 80's. My friend found a small-size US beltplate, an Eagle Breastplate, and we both found lots of bullets and buttons.

 

[picolata]

All of you,

Great research. Thanks for providing that.

TE

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