Need help in identifying this coin!

[Panayiotis]

I need your help in identifying the below ... do not know whether is a coin or token also .. even if you don't know .. your advice as where I should look would be also appreciated.

Was bought back in 2008 amongst others as uknown coin and was mentioned to me that was found in 2 pieces and the total weight is 49gr.

 

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[Mackaydon]

At nearly 75% heavier than a Morgan silver dollar (26.7 gms), I'd guess souvenir or commemorative; not a coin.
Don.......

 

[coinsareawesome]

I agree, that coin seems to have something about that says fake; I had that idea as soon as I saw it.

 

[Mackaydon]

Actually, I may have 'spoken' too quickly.
I now see the OP write "49 gr." He may be referring to grains versus grams.
49 grains equates to just over 3 grams.
While the weight in grains might be similar to a small coin (a US dime is 2.5 grams), that doesn't change my belief it is not a coin.
Don....

 

[Panayiotis]

Actually, I may have 'spoken' too quickly.
I now see the OP write "49 gr." He may be referring to grains versus grams.
49 grains equates to just over 3 grams.
While the weight in grains might be similar to a small coin (a US dime is 2.5 grams), that doesn't change my belief it is not a coin.
Don....

Firstly , thank you all for your input and feedback.

49 is grams not grains, is a large coin/token or medal or whatever else it is. I do not think is 'fake' though.

Looks and feels old, the best guess I got till now (to my belief) is that this is a fantasy coin or token picturing an event and probably dates back around 1700-1800 era. However, there is ambiguity for the lettering cause these do not 'clearly' stand for any specific language (they seem to be towards Pigpen cipher Coin Community as per one comment I received.

The representation to my eyes (especially at the back) resemble to slaves or soldiers with a man holding a whip on top of them. And the figures of people (again as I view it) reflect mostly to Asian/Persian/Indian/Egyptian kind of people.

One thing is for sure, till now no one knows what it is and even if it's a token/medal/or fantasy coin still there is something behind this that I personally feel that I should look into .. problem is .. I do not know where else to look for such items ... so any input is more than welcome.

 

[jan nielsen]

The largest Greek coin minted is a 10 dracmas that veigh 43 gr. Can you get any one to reed the letters they look Greek?

 

[Panayiotis]

The largest Greek coin minted is a 10 dracmas that veigh 43 gr. Can you get any one to reed the letters they look Greek?

I am Greek Cypriot and I cannot make any sense of these

 

[bigfoot1]

I find it interesting that it depicts an ox being ridden...usually asian..and the reverse looks somewhat like rice being harvested.of course the text is certainly not asian and may even be pretend text.The size and weight also are important.I would guess that you are correct...fantasy token,pog,gamepiece,souvineer

I was unable to locate an example..perhaps cast.
cheers

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Either way, a nice interesting coin or token.

 

[jan nielsen]

I agree with Bigfoot.

 

[DCMatt]

I looked at this for a while over the last couple of days. Let me make a few observations. To my eye the piece is old. Man riding a bull holding a staff/spear (power) in one hand and snakes (immortality?) in the other. He also wears a pointy hat. 4 men on the reverse may hold snakes as well. It is pretty clear to me the guy at the top is holding a snake. The one in the center appears to have a falx sword (curved). 4 figures on the back wear round top hats. The guy on the front as well as 3 on the back are wearing striped or bloused tunics. The 4th guy on the back in the "prostrate" position (with snake) is not wearing the same clothing.

The break in the medallion is curious to me. Fairly clean with little additional damage or bending of the metal – like it was deliberately broken. Possibly for some ritual? Four guys swinging snakes around?

My first thought on dating this medallion was Thraco-Macedonian. But I have no proof whatsoever…. Yet. There is plenty of bull and snake symbolism in pre-Christian Macedonia, but I can’t tie anything directly to the images on the medallion.

I think the item deserves more attention than I can give it.

DCMatt