Need help IDing this 1808 Spanish coin

[Coins4Cheese]

I was wondering everything about this coin. If you could help me on it, it will be much appreciated.

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Now your talkin silver. 8 reale Carolus IIII Mexico mint.

 

[Iron Patch]

Now your talkin silver. 8 reale Carolus IIII Mexico mint.

...with what looks to be a few Chinese chop marks.

 

[Mackaydon]

Obverse: An armored, laureated bust of Carlos IV, facing right.
CAROLUS IIII DEI GRATIA 1808

Reverse, a crowned coat of arms of Spain consisting of a quartered shield with castles and lions in the quarters. In the small center shield are three fluers de lis. At the bottom of the shield is a pomegranate. Beside the shield are two columns.
PLUS VUTRA, is inscribed on the ribbons which are wrapped around the columns.
HISPAN ET IND REX (small 'o' over capital 'M'--for Mexico City mint); 8R (8-reales) TH (assayers initials).

Original coin weighed 26.83 grams, was 40 mm in diameter and was .896 silver.
And what appear to be: 3 Chinese 'chop marks' on the king's breastplate--as Iron Patch mentioned above.
Don..

 

[kuger]

Yep!!!Thats alright!!Thats the denomination I want to dig!!

 

[72cheyenne]

Wow, I learned something today.....chopmarks.

http://www.tradedollarnut.com/Home Page/Home first links/Collecting/Chopmarks.htm
http://reviews.ebay.com/Chinese-CHOPMARKS_W0QQugidZ10000000008089573

Nice. This is what its all about, learning.

 

[IronSpike]

Nice eye for details Iron Patch and good call on the chopmarks. That's a very nice reale Coins4Cheese

Wow, I learned something today.....chopmarks.

http://www.tradedollarnut.com/Home Page/Home first links/Collecting/Chopmarks.htm
http://reviews.ebay.com/Chinese-CHOPMARKS_W0QQugidZ10000000008089573

Nice. This is what its all about, learning.

You learn something every day. Good link 72cheyenne

 

[traderoftreasures]

nice coin , nice id , and thanks for the lesson

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I always thought these might be chop marks but I dont know for sure. Does anyone recognize these marks? I might need a clearer pic.

 

[IronSpike]

I always thought these might be chop marks but I dont know for sure. Does anyone recognize these marks? I might need a clearer pic.

I think the two 'trees' look like chopmarks.

Here's a link with a rare chopmark in relief:

www.rosenblumcoins.com


http://images.google.com/imgres?img...s+on+old+coins&hl=en&rlz=1G1ACGW_ENUS342&um=1

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I think I see the same chopmark on all three coins. But is it unusual to see chopmarks on a 1768 $Potosi?

 

[IronSpike]

I think I see the same chopmark on all three coins. But is it unusual to see chopmarks on a 1768 $Potosi?

I thought the circled chopmark was a 'chopmark in relief'?